<DIV>You, for one, are a troll, and as such, do not deserve a discussion.</DIV>
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<DIV>RickK<BR><BR><B><I>"N.T. Riche" <vonriche@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV>I am not sure, but I seriously don't think trolling is a problem.</DIV>
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<DIV>I have a few question for Rick and Heph and others:</DIV>
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<DIV>What constitutes trolling?</DIV>
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<DIV>If so should trolls be banned without a hearing?</DIV>
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<DIV>Could other users defend a troll without them being called a troll (Like I have)?</DIV>
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<DIV>Also I understand we are building a encyclopedia...but is there such a thing as Academic freedom on wikipedia (to some extent because i realize this a private project not a public one)?</DIV>
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<DIV>I don't see trolling to be a problem, I see users that act like vigilantes to be a problem. I've seen some users that claimed to be "free-thinkers" but banned people without a hearing from the Arb. committee. I've seen users that claimed to be Liberals, but where ultra-reactionary in banning practices and are no better than the people they criticize. Now I never once said they're was a "cabal" but what I am saying is that I believe in <STRONG>FREEDOM. </STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV>Nick T. Riche Aka User:Plato</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Mark Richards <marich712000@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Perhaps the inability or refusal to deal with this<BR>'problem' is that there really isn't much of a<BR>problem?<BR>Mark<BR><BR>--- Robert Dodier <ROBERT_DODIER@YAHOO.COM>wrote:<BR><BR>> Hephaestos wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > In light of the fact that the Arbitration<BR>> Committee is <BR>> > quite willing to censure me and others for having<BR>> the <BR>> > audacity to do the job they refuse to do, over any<BR>> objections<BR>> > we may have, I don't think they are being taken<BR>> seriously.<BR>> ><BR>> > On the other hand, if I were to change my handle<BR>> to <BR>> > GreezyTroll and start spewing nonsense about<BR>> "cabal" and <BR>> > "GFDL corpus", and inserting "faggot" into every<BR>> other article,<BR>> > I think my objections would be taken quite<BR>> seriously. In the <BR>> > name of
"fairness" or somesuch.<BR>> <BR>> Wikipedia is suffering from a classic case of<BR>> looking for<BR>> the house keys under the street light. There is an<BR>> inability,<BR>> or perhaps refusal, to recognize trolling. On the<BR>> other hand,<BR>> it,s very easy to spot admins who are breaking<BR>> rules.<BR>> <BR>> RickK wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > Sorry, but I will continue to do what needs to be<BR>> done, <BR>> > and I hope, Heph, that you will, too.<BR>> <BR>> Hephaestos wrote:<BR>> <BR>> > Why should we, when our help is so clearly not<BR>> wanted?<BR>> <BR>> For the record: -I- want your help. I consider WP a<BR>> serious<BR>> project -- that means the current troll-pandering<BR>> has to stop.<BR>> <BR>> Hephaestos, you rock, and RickK, so do you.<BR>> Keep up the good work. <BR>> <BR>> For what it,s worth --<BR>> Robert Dodier<BR>> (Wile E. Heresiarch)<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
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