<DIV>Still unacceptable. The Arbcom is still making policy which has not been agreed to by the wikipedia as a whole.</DIV>
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<DIV>RickK<BR><BR><B><I>Fred Bauder <fredbaud@ctelco.net></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">The language now reads, "When a Wikipedia administrator discovers an<BR>instance where a block was made without appropriate reference to the<BR>Wikipedia:Blocking policy, they may reverse the block but should post a note<BR>on the offending Wikipedia administrators talk page explaining why the block<BR>was reversed."<BR><BR>Fred<BR><BR>> From: Finlay McWalter <FINLAY_WIKIPEDIA_94AC@MCWALTER.NET><BR>> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <WIKIEN-L@WIKIPEDIA.ORG><BR>> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2004 01:22:23 +0100<BR>> To: wikien-l@wikipedia.org<BR>> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Re: Blocking policy<BR>> <BR>> I agree entirely with Rick. A policy is anything that affects future<BR>> conduct by parties unrelated to the matter before the AC. Fred's<BR>> original posting read "...It would require any administrator...". The<BR>> AC has no powers whatever to make requirements of the
conduct of "any"<BR>> wikipedian.<BR>> <BR>> This is clearly either policy making or policy clarification, neither of<BR>> which the AC is constituted to do. If a policy requires clarification<BR>> then only the body of the wikipedia may do so. The AC is not a court;<BR>> its decisions do not constitute jurisprudence.<BR>> <BR>> Please don't get me wrong: I understand its members do a thankless,<BR>> unpleasant task, dealing calmy with those many of us would gladly see<BR>> (metaphorically) hang. But this is clearly policy making, and that's not<BR>> the AC's job.<BR>> <BR>> FIn<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Rick wrote:<BR>> <BR>>> OK. I said that for the arbitration committee to try to make policy is<BR>>> outside the scope of their charter. I was told that they were not making<BR>>> policy, they were only pointing to it. They are trying to require sysops to<BR>>> point to a policy page when they block a user.
When I asked where the policy<BR>>> is that says that a sysop has to do that, you say that this is not a policy,<BR>>> but what is proposed. Therefore, my original point stands. The arbitration<BR>>> committee is trying to create policy, and this is outside of the scope of<BR>>> their charter, and therefore what they're trying to do is unacceptable.<BR>>> <BR>>> RickK<BR>>> <BR>>> Fred Bauder <FREDBAUD@CTELCO.NET>wrote:<BR>>> It has not been, but that is what is proposed.<BR>>> <BR>>> Fred<BR>>> <BR>>> From: Rick <GIANTSRICK13@YAHOO.COM><BR>>> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <WIKIEN-L@WIKIPEDIA.ORG><BR>>> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:09:19 -0700 (PDT)<BR>>> To: English Wikipedia <WIKIEN-L@WIKIPEDIA.ORG><BR>>> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Blocking policy<BR>>> <BR>>> When has it ever been policy that a sysop must point to a policy page when<BR>>> blocking a user?<BR>>>
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