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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>OK a few points to clear up<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;
tab-stops:list 36.0pt'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I <b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-weight:
bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>am</span></b> an administrator on wikipedia.
I can check to see if you IP <span class=GramE>is</span> blocked if you tell it
to me, and I can unblock it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;
tab-stops:list 36.0pt'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I <b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-weight:
bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>do not</span></b> represent wikipedia, my opinions
are my own. <span class=GramE>Non</span> of the <span class=SpellE>admins</span>
represent wikipedia.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;
tab-stops:list 36.0pt'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>You are cc you emails to a mailing list where all and sundry can
read what you write. The people who have replied so far are only trying to
help. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;
tab-stops:list 36.0pt'><![if !supportLists]><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;mso-fareast-font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>The “administrator” in the message of this mailing list
means the person who checks the mailing list for spam etc <span class=GramE>It</span>
is not the same thing as the site administrators. We should probably change the
name of one or the other to save confusion in the future.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It looks
to me as if Angela’s suggestion that you clicked on a red link is
probably what happened, though it doesn’t explain why you shouldn’t
be able to read subsequent pages. Unless the server went down in the meantime,
which was perfectly possible I suppose.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sorry
for replying when you have indicated you don’t want to read any more
replies but some of the points you make do need to be discussed by everyone. It
was not my intention to be rude when I said “calm down”. </span></font><st1:State><st1:place><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Ill</span></font></st1:place></st1:State><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> happily
take it back. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:18.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Theresa<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Cerise Rose
[mailto:ceriserose69@yahoo.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 09 June 2004 16:59<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> KNOTT, T;
ajh65@hermes.cam.ac.uk<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> wikien-l@Wikipedia.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> ...</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
Interesting that after telling you to leave me ALONE after this I now receive a
few more replies.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>IF the site was set up to leave a message for an
ADMINISTRATOR or ADMINISTRATOR QUEUE without having to log in, I would not have
HAD to go this route. First off, every email I send to <a
href="mailto:wikien-l@Wikipedia.org">wikien-l@Wikipedia.org</a> gets a
reply that says it would have to be reviewed by the administrators BEFORE it
was released to the board. I realized it wasn't the 'right' place to send
the message but there was no other obvious place on the pages I could
access. Silly me thought one would actually BE looking at it and deal
with what could be a potential problem on YOUR board. If I was posting to
the wrong place, or if there was a better place to contact the admins,
maybe it should be a bit more obvious. With the ban message I received I
couldn't get into all areas of the site, right? You'd think that people
who are banned erroneously or not, might need a way to contact the administration
if they think it's in error.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I don't know who you, or anyone else is, when they
email me back, right? I'M NOT and DO NOT WISH to be a member. When
someone asks me for an IP and sounds like they're going to investigate when I
provide them the info, am I so far off to think they MIGHT be an
ADMINISTRATOR? Even Theresa's response today asks me to give information
on the error messages I received (which, again weeks later, I don't remember
them).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Timwi, I'm am not getting into the semantics of my post.
Telling someone to calm down *IS* rude. I didn't say Theresa was hyper or
upset, did I? So your point about her reply not being so either is
completely irrelevant. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>If I don't understand things about the board maybe
it's because I'm NOT A MEMBER. I can't stress this enough. I'm
someone who found some interesting things on a website and for no apparent
reason hit a wall and thought a simple email to the admins voicing my
displeasure at the screwed up site might get me somewhere. In hindsight, I wish
I'd just hit another google site and been done with this crap.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I was reading. I clicked on a link to go to
another page of what I was reading. From that moment on I could not access a
single thing on the site, except for a page that has a link to a message board
that apparently spits my concern to all and sundry without prejudice. End
<br>
of story. Something somewhere FUCKED UP. Usually administrators and site
webmasters LIKE to know when things go wrong. Usually they listen to
feedback. Apparently this site is NOT set up that way.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>As for swearing at casual participants, for that I
apologize Theresa. Without identifying yourself as not being admin, I did
think you were representing the site. I am normally not so reactive, but the
sheer and utter stupidity of the way this site runs (or doesn't run) has
frustrated me beyond belief.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I will not reply to any more messages. I'm
completely done with this. Thank you for taking your time and
attempting to assist me, again, Theresa I'm sorry for not understanding your
position and taking out what should be for the administration on you.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Do you Yahoo!?<br>
Friends. Fun. <a href="http://messenger.yahoo.com/">Try the all-new Yahoo!
Messenger</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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