<DIV>Hello Comrade Rakim (and others), I do see a slight problem with this (but i'd have to see the article first), if your article was well-written, and Encyclopedic then it shouldn't be put on VFD. I've had some "problems" with Rick before, I want you to show me this article on and lay out your point of contention on my talk page. However if this articles wasn't encycolpedic as rick said than he was justified in putting it on VFD.</DIV>
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<DIV>(Now here come part two: the VFD page is terrible, it is so long, a user can't vote on any of the articles they feel pertains to them. I am begging one of the syosps that is most likely reading this PLEASE fix it. Thank You)</DIV>
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<DIV>User:plato<BR><BR><B><I>"Eric B. Rakim" <eric_b_and_rakim@hotmail.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Dear mailing list readers,<BR><BR>I don't know if this is the proper place to turn for<BR>help. If it isn't, then please tell me because the matter is<BR>urgent. Wikipedia is a fine resource and contains very much<BR>useful information. Reading Wikipedia is fun, and every day<BR>since I discovered it I've learnt a thing or two by reading<BR>it. But its coverage about programming and computer software<BR>is a little thin I think. Well, I'm quite knowledgeable when<BR>it comes to computer related topics and I love to write. So,<BR>therefore I took it upon me to fix this defiancy.<BR><BR>Big mistake it seems, some people didn't like that at all.<BR><BR>Especially not a user by the name RickK, who a few minutes<BR>after I had written an initial version of "XFree86 logfile"<BR>added it to a page "Votes for Deletion" on which he is<BR>currently holding a vote whether that page should be
destroyed<BR>or not. Naturally, I protested strongly, because I couldn't<BR>and still cannot understand why he wants to delete that<BR>page. He didn't try to communicate with me and just wrote<BR>"Huh?" and then when I asked him why he thought that that<BR>page should be deleted he answered "It isn't discussing<BR>anything encyclopedic. I THINK it describes a file format,<BR>but I'm not really sure."<BR><BR>>From that it became obvious to me that he hadn't even read<BR>the article because it should be pretty damn obvious to<BR>anyone that an article titled "XFree86 logfile" is about the<BR>XFree86 logfile. And that I told him that, whereafter he<BR>listed all other six articles I had written:<BR><BR>glDrawElements, glVertexPointer, glDrawArrays, glEnable,<BR>GL_QUADS, fbdevhw<BR><BR>And wrote: "I'll ask again. Do we really want articles on<BR>subroutines?" Which is really funny since only the four<BR>first documents subroutines.<BR><BR>Then quite a few other users also said that
they wanted<BR>those articles destroyed. No reasons where given except for<BR>pointless platitudes like "not encyclopedia material" and<BR>"Wikipedia is not (should not be) an API reference".<BR><BR>I tryid arguing and, no offense intened, but it was totally<BR>wasted time. Those functions are the essential cornerstones<BR>for modern 3d graphics.. Have to realize that some people<BR>just have a very different view of things than me. However,<BR>I refuse to accept that Wikipedia in general would have such<BR>a twisted view of things because then there wouldn't be<BR>250,000+ articles here.<BR><BR>Then I wrote the beginning of an article named pcidata,<BR>which is a X module for displaying PCI information. Two<BR>minutes after it was submitted a user named Beelzebubs wrote<BR>"Speedy deletion" on it and a minute later it was destroyed<BR>by DavidWBrooks. It made me quite angry because I had no way<BR>whatsoever to even object. And from looking at their<BR>respective user pages I
deducted that none of them is<BR>interested in Linux and therefore (probably) has no idea<BR>what pcidata is.<BR><BR>It seems like Wikipedia really isn't a very newbie friendly<BR>page. Well, I can't exclude UtherSRG's very friendly<BR>message on my talk page. Is this some kind of hazing or are<BR>regular users treated like this too? Seems like a calculated<BR>move - tease the new guy til they fight back and then accuse<BR>them. Especially this little gem by the same user that also<BR>accused me of being rude:<BR><BR>"But I'd recommend you leave listing them to users with good<BR>contribution records, and the same with discussing this<BR>one. AFAIK all the many articles you have written so far<BR>have been listed for deletion and will be deleted as<BR>unencyclopedic. IMO you aren't entitled to vote on<BR>VfD. Sorry." Andrewa....<BR><BR>I need help. Because I don't know what I should do. Either<BR>it is so that my work and expertise isn't appreciated or<BR>even accepted by Wikipedia.
If so, I will leave peacefully<BR>and not return. If not so, I would expect an apology from<BR>the perpetrators and that my work is not destroyed.<BR><BR>//Björn (aka. Eric B. and Rakim)<BR><BR>_________________________________________________________________<BR>Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. <BR>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>WikiEN-l mailing list<BR>WikiEN-l@Wikipedia.org<BR>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l</BLOCKQUOTE><p>
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