<DIV>I can't really say that I'm a Wik fan, but in THAT PARTICULAR CASE, it was Cantus that was at fault.</DIV>
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<DIV>RickK<BR><BR><B><I>Martin Harper <martin@myreddice.freeserve.co.uk></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Jimbo asked:<BR>> I genuinely want to know what arguments are being made in his<BR>> favor, and by whom, and for what reason.<BR><BR>Eg:<BR><BR>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Wik2<BR><BR>172 and Danny in particular. To a perhaps lesser extent, Baldhur, Meelar, Dissident, <BR>RickK, Secretlondon, Sam Spade.<BR><BR>That's just on one page. There are lots of other discussion pages, of course, but reading <BR>through that should give you a pretty good insight into the relevant discussion. Happy <BR>reading! :)<BR><BR>Erik wrote:<BR>> I have to say that if they cannot solve this problem [of Wik], I must consider the <BR>arbitration process broken.<BR><BR>With the best will in the the world, the arbitration committee is not going to magically <BR>turn Wikipedia into a place of sweetness and light, nor is it going to reform troublesome <BR>users
into paragons of righteousness. A fair, unbiased, and accurate banning process is <BR>probably part of the puzzle, but it is actually quite a small part. Other parts might <BR>include:<BR><BR>* Technical measures of various sorts (anti-puppet, anti-revert, anti-edit war, anti-anon <BR>edit, etc)<BR>* Better policies and guidelines in general<BR>* Good mediation for problems<BR>* Some form of content arbitration, possibly votes, possibly something else<BR>* Bold editing <BR>* Better policies for allowing bans of various lengths that don't require the committee.<BR>* Culture change<BR>* Multiple independent versions of controversial articles<BR>* yada<BR>* yada<BR>* yada<BR><BR>As an arbitrator, I'm entirely happy to enforce whatever rules you folks decide on, and if <BR>those rules make the committee obsolete, that would be absolutely fine.<BR><BR>-Martin<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>WikiEN-l mailing
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