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On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 16:10, Gareth Owen wrote:
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<PRE><FONT SIZE="3">"Poor, Edmund W" <Edmund.W.Poor@abc.com> writes:</FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="3">> How many people want admins to have the Authority to temp-ban any user</FONT>
<FONT SIZE="3">> who (in their opinion) has violated a community rule? </FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="3">Yes, please. </FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="3">Troublemakers (like Wik, Iriskook and Plautus) only have to show a slight bit</FONT>
<FONT SIZE="3">of subtlety and we bend over backwards to please them, frequently alienating</FONT>
<FONT SIZE="3">actual, useful contributors.</FONT>
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<FONT SIZE="3">Gareth Owen</FONT></PRE>
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<FONT SIZE="3"><TT>Oh, please no.</FONT></TT>
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<FONT SIZE="3"><TT>The dangers are more salient than the benefits. We can afford to lose any number </FONT></TT>
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<FONT SIZE="3"><TT>of users to exasperation with vandals and trolls. What we can not afford is to</FONT></TT>
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<FONT SIZE="3"><TT>create (even with the best of intentions) a insular culture of obeisance and</FONT></TT>
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<FONT SIZE="3"><TT>initiatory progression through the ranks. Sysophood is already too often withheld</FONT></TT>
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<FONT SIZE="3"><TT>from unpopular users(/users holding unpopular views). Openness is the jewel of</FONT></TT>
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<FONT SIZE="3"><TT>wikipedia, and it should be protected at nearly any cost.</FONT></TT>
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<FONT SIZE="3"><TT>I understand the will to prevent useful users from leaving in frustration, but</FONT></TT>
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<FONT SIZE="3"><TT>we must be more concerned about the whole of wikipedia, than any one, or even</FONT></TT>
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<FONT SIZE="3"><TT>several users. "The law created before me, shall outlast me." As much as it pains </FONT></TT>
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<FONT SIZE="3"><TT>us all, it is _most_ important to lay down rules which can be justified without </FONT></TT>
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<FONT SIZE="3"><TT>reference to current cases, and personages.</FONT></TT>
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<FONT SIZE="3"><TT>Jussi-Ville Heiskanen (aka Cimon Avaro)</FONT></TT>
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