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You grossly exaggerate. We'll catch em at dawn, mediate em in the morning, arbitrate em in the afternoon, hang em and be home in time for supper.<BR>
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Fred<BR>
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<B>From: </B>Rick <giantsrick13@yahoo.com><BR>
<B>Reply-To: </B>English Wikipedia <wikien-l@Wikipedia.org><BR>
<B>Date: </B>Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:28:56 -0800 (PST)<BR>
<B>To: </B>English Wikipedia <wikien-l@Wikipedia.org><BR>
<B>Subject: </B>RE: [WikiEN-l] Quacks Like a Duck<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>That doesn't seem to be an option any longer. No, instead, we're going to have a months-long runup to a mediation process, a months-long mediation process, a months-long runup to an arbitration process, a months-long arbitration process, and then maybe, just maybe, somebody will, someday when they get around to it, propose banning.<BR>
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RickK<BR>
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<B><I>"Mills, Billy" <billy.mills@thomson.com></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE="2">KNOTT, T wrote:</FONT> <BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2">>What's to stop them</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">>posting huge long rants where they insult a number of users at once? <BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2">Maybe an immediate ban if they do so?</FONT> <BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2">Billy</FONT> <BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2">-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">From: KNOTT, T [mailto:TKNOTT@qcl.org.uk]</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">Sent: 21 January 2004 14:35</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">To: English Wikipedia</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">Subject: RE: [WikiEN-l] Quacks Like a Duck</FONT> <BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2">Wes yes I know we'll recognise them fairly quickly. But I suspect that</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">most users under this sort of ban will flout it very quickly. I suspect</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">that we be spending much of our time catching them out. Also 10 edits a</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">day is plenty enough to be rude about people. What's to stop them</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">posting huge long rants where they insult a number of users at once? <BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2">I don't want to put too much of a downer on the idea. It might make some</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">people shape up. It's certainly nice to give some sort of warning to</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">give them a chance.</FONT> <BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2">Theresa</FONT> <BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2">-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">From: Fred Bauder [mailto:fredbaud@ctelco.net] <BR>
Sent: 21 January 2004 14:27</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">To: English Wikipedia</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">Subject: [WikiEN-l] Quacks Like a Duck</FONT> <BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2">When a quacking duck flys into view, one knows.</FONT> <BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2">Fred</FONT> <BR>
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<FONT SIZE="2">> From: "KNOTT, T" <TKNOTT@qcl.org.uk></FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l@Wikipedia.org></FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:12:57 -0000</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">> To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l@Wikipedia.org></FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Warning shot - will it work ?</FONT> <BR>
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> How will we know when a limited edit user has gone anon ? Even if we</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">> suspect that IP such and such is user so and so we couldn't prove it</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">was</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">> them. IPs identify the machine not the user.</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">> <BR>
> Theresa</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">> <BR>
> -----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR>
<FONT SIZE="2">> From: Magnus Manske [mailto:magnus.manske@web.de] <BR>
> Sent: 21 January 2004 13:50 <BR>
> To: English Wikipedia <BR>
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] MNH, again <BR>
> <BR>
> I just had this idea (not necessarily related to MNH): <BR>
> As a "warning shot" from one of out countless committees, a <BR>
> "problematic" user could be limited to a fixed number of edits per <BR>
day. <BR>
> <BR>
> That way, he can <BR>
> * either waste these edits on stuff that gets reverted anyway, <BR>
> * or use them more wisely, <BR>
> * or leave if he doesn't think he can limit himself to "decent" edits <BR>
> <BR>
> As example, I'd say 10 edits per day, for one week. Just to have some <BR>
> figures. <B>> <BR>
> Circumventing these measures by creating an alternate user name or <BR>
going <BR>
> <BR>
> anon will result in immediate banning. <BR>
> <BR>
> Magnus <BR>
> (who thinks a little discipline won't harm the project;-) <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> Fred Bauder wrote: <BR>
> <BR>
>> The members of the mediation and arbitration committees need to get <BR>
on <BR>
> the <BR>
>> stick. You can keep the pressure on... <BR>
>> <BR>
>> Fred <BR>
>> <BR>
>> <BR>
>> <BR>
>>> From: "KNOTT, T" <TKNOTT@qcl.org.uk> <BR>
>>> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l@Wikipedia.org> <BR>
>>> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:49:50 -0000 <BR>
>>> To: "English Wikipedia" <wikien-l@Wikipedia.org> <BR>
>>> Subject: RE: [WikiEN-l] MNH, again <BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> What do we need to do to get the arbitration process sorted out <BR>
> quickly? <BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> <BR>
>> <BR>
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