'AIDS Kills Fags Dead' slogan -- subject covered on hate speech, inherently inflamatory title should be deleted. -- Infrogmation 23:20 Feb 24, 2003 (UTC) The information contained in that article was removed rather than moved to hate speech. It is not covered anywhere right now. It should either be moved to hate speech, or a better article title should be found. Are quotes around the phrase acceptible? AxelBoldt 23:27 Feb 24, 2003 (UTC) I had already moved it, but an anonymous user reverted the move. --Eloquence 23:34 Feb 24, 2003 (UTC) I've reverted to your version. (That's until our anonymous user decides to revert things yet again!) JTD 23:54 Feb 24, 2003 (UTC) Ok, if it fits better at hate speech, that's fine with me. AxelBoldt 23:41 Feb 24, 2003 (UTC) Duh, Axel. Quite unprofessional. -'Vert This article is fine. It's unsavory, but properly named and well-written. --The Cunctator This article was not fine, and was to be deleted, and then Axel took it upon himself to rename it, adding "slogan." Its still not valid material, and it already has a heading under hate speech. -?? It may also cause legal problems because the article using that title (even when qualified with a slogan - which is not exactly a description of what it is) may breach Incitement to Hatred legislation in many states. All it would need is for some organisation or individual to 'make an issue' of the article title in some media outlet or 'demand' prosecution and Wiki would get acres of very, very negative publicity, all for an article that belongs elsewhere. I vote to delete this page. JtdIrL 21:44 Mar 2, 2003 (UTC) On Mar 15 mav deleted the above for staleness.. ==== * Homophobic hate speech - after a lot of discussion, there was almost unanimous agreement to move 'AIDS kills Fags dead' to 'Homophobic hate speech'. However The Cunctator took it upon himself to rename the page (twice!) before creating a new page with that title, so it could not be moved back to where the entire talk page but him thinks it should be. So could someone immediately o remove the current HOMOPHOBIC HATE SPEECH page (Cunctator's version), and o reinstate AIDS kills Fags dead to that page as was universally agreed to by everyone but him. JtdIrL 03:31 Mar 3, 2003 (UTC) I respectfully disagree with the honorable member's position. Zoe brought the issue to Jimbo's attention and to the mailing list, so there is much discussion and a resolution to be found in due course. --The Cunctator No. Another falsehood. There was a discussion and a solution which Cunctator deliberately destroyed by (a) renaming the page after most people had agreed on a replacement name suggested by Stevertigo and were adding to its contents, (b) creating a dodgy replacement POV article so that the page could not be restored to its agreed location. Zoe and everyone else isn't looking for a discussion - there was one. And a solution. They are complaining about Cunctator's outrageous and deliberate scrapping of the agreed solution so he can use his 'pet name', one which Jimbo has suggested is in clear breach of Wiki naming conventions. In restoring the pages to the agreed format through the delete mentioned above, you'll simply be restoring the pages to the consensus state and location agreed after days of debate. So please delete Homophobic hate speech to allow 'AIDS Kills Fags Dead' slogan to be put where it was agreed to be put. JtdIrL 05:17 Mar 3, 2003 (UTC) ========== http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AAnti-gay_slogan