[WikiEN-l] Fwd: The counterattack of the PR companies

WereSpielChequers werespielchequers at gmail.com
Thu Apr 19 14:45:36 UTC 2012


No it isn't exactly the same for people and companies. Wikipedia has a
whole bunch of editors whose hobby includes protecting BLPs, we don't have
similar editors who genuinely care about the reputation of companies. Or if
we do they aren't in the same numbers.

Also if PR people are skewed towards those members of society who don't
understand the difference between 60% of PR people consider that they've
found an error in their company' article and 60% of Wikipedia articles are
wrong,  then there may be a poorer cultural fit between PR people and
wikipedians than there is between marginally notable people and Wikipedians.

WSC
On 19 April 2012 15:30, Ken Arromdee <arromdee at rahul.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Apr 2012, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
>
>> As Sarah says, telling PR people whose day job it is to just present one
>> side of the story to go right ahead isn't the solution. But we cannot
>> close
>> our eyes to the fact that there are editors who for whatever reason
>> similarly have made it their job to only present one side of the story;
>> that PR people may have a legitimate grievance when they come to
>> Wikipedia;
>> and that the restrictions we are applying to them are not applying to the
>> anonymous editors on the "other side", for whom we prescribe "assume good
>> faith", the right to edit anonymously, protection from having their
>> motives
>> questioned, and so forth.
>>
>
> It's exactly the same problem as BLPs, except for companies.  If someone
> tries to edit their own BLP, they're told they have a conflict of interest.
> Due weight problems?  The article's been vandalized for years?  Tough luck,
> deal with it, we have our own procedures for dealing with vandalism.  We're
> sure they'll work out someday.
>
> If anything, it's worse for companies.  Nobody tells BLP subjects that
> because
> they have a COI, they can't even remove incorrect statements about
> themselves.
>
>
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