[WikiEN-l] Tsunamis and disaster articles

[Bob the Wikipedian]

I'm not sure how helpful it is, but yesteryear's word for "tsunami" was 
"typhoon". You might consider searching for typhoons as well.

Bob

On 3/15/2011 9:42 AM, Carcharoth wrote:
> Would anyone be able to help me track down examples of articles that
> cover two or more things on the same page? I'm trying to work out why
> we have articles that include "tsunami" in the titles, when there are
> many events throughout history that caused tsunamis that don't include
> that in the title. I tried searching for "and" in the title and found
> these examples:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Sendai_earthquake_and_tsunami
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake_and_tsunami
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2010_Sumatra_earthquake_and_tsunami
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/869_Sanriku_earthquake_and_tsunami
>
> But there are many other examples of tsunamis not "attached" to the
> event that caused them.
>
> Most are here:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_tsunamis
>
> Articles on some of the causative events of the tsunami listed in that
> article are:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minoan_eruption
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_eruption_of_Krakatoa
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1700_Cascadia_earthquake
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1755_Lisbon_earthquake
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansei_Great_Earthquakes
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1908_Messina_earthquake
>
> There are also some tsunami with their own articles and none on the cause:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1771_Great_Yaeyama_Tsunami
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Severo-Kurilsk_tsunami
>
> Ones caused by landslides are arguably correctly given their own article:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Lituya_Bay_megatsunami
>
> However, it seems a bit of a mess at the moment.
>
> There are other disasters that take the form of causative event
> followed by an effect that causes the most destruction. The two
> examples I've seen used are Hurricane Katrina, where the storm surge
> and flooding caused most of the damage (though almost any hurricane
> that size that hits land will cause a storm surge and flooding) and
> the firestorm that can take hold after some earthquakes (notably the
> 1906 San Francisco Earthquake).
>
> On other words, tsunami are not something that occur by themselves.
> They are caused by something, and I'm not sure that the currently
> evolving practice of tacking tsunami onto the end of the title of
> articles about the causative event is the right approach. It seems to
> be a recent approach, and I'm not entirely sure where the best place
> is to discuss this, as individual renaming discussions don't seem the
> best place to get an overview of the whole effect. Where is the best
> place to discuss naming conventions if no specific guidance exists?
> Would it be the talk page of the 'Article titles' policy, or would a
> more specific place (the 'events' naming guideline) be better?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Article_titles
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_%28events%29
>
> Carcharoth
>
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