[WikiEN-l] Rating the English wikipedia

Newyorkbrad newyorkbrad at gmail.com
Mon Feb 14 16:45:39 UTC 2011


True, but how well is the distinction understood by people who apply the
templates or rate the articles?

Newyorkbrad

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Ian Woollard <ian.woollard at gmail.com>wrote:

> I think not. There's a difference between a stub (which may not have
> many or even any references at all) and a very short article.
> Something can be a valid C-class, and still only be 2 or 3 paragraphs.
>
> On 14/02/2011, Newyorkbrad <newyorkbrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>  > I think Charles is right about this.  There is a common conception, or
> > misconception, that stubship or start-class-ship is just a way station on
> > the way to articlehood.  But some articles are probably destined to
> remain
> > short, or at least, can remain short without their
> > shortness reflecting poorly on the project.  I don't know if there are
> any
> > statistics, but I am sure that the Britannica (for example) has at least
> as
> > many one- or two- or three-paragraph articles as lengthier ones.
> >
> > It may be that the wording of the stub template fosters this reading.
>  "This
> > article is a stub.  You can help Wikipedia by expanding it."  Often, of
> > course, but perhaps not always.
> >
> > Newyorkbrad
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Charles Matthews <
> > charles.r.matthews at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 14/02/2011 03:35, Ian Woollard wrote:
> >> > I think you can't take the simple percentages of articles, a lot of
> >> > the most important and well visited articles are pretty well sorted,
> >> > whereas the stubs are mostly articles few people go to.
> >> While this discussion is worth having, I wish to record a view, now long
> >> held, by means of a metaphor. Wikipedia is an omelette, not scrambled
> >> eggs. Because of the intrinsic use of of hypertext, taking WP to be (in
> >> the large) a collection of articles is always a distortion. If the "few
> >> people" who go to a stub are just those who would refer to a
> >> corresponding footnote in a book, the system as a whole is functioning
> >> as it should.
> >>
> >> Charles
> >>
> >>
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