[WikiEN-l] cleaning up the Kosovo geographic names

Mike Dupont jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com
Fri Nov 19 14:51:08 UTC 2010


This is what I have to deal with :
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pan%C4%8Di%C4%87%27s_Peak&curid=16209969&diff=397646009&oldid=397630575
any suggestions?
mike

On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Mike  Dupont
<jamesmikedupont at googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Fred Bauder <fredbaud at fairpoint.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Here is another prime example of how the user is misled when using the
>>>>> english wikipedia.
>>>>> lets say you are looking for Maja Pançiq, you wont find the article,
>>>>> because someone commented out the name in the article
>>>>> Pan%C4%8Di%C4%87%27s_Peak. Just because albanian is not an official
>>>>> language in central serbia, they say. First of all, there are many
>>>>> albanians living in that area, and second of all, the point is listed
>>>>> as a border point between Kosovo and Serbia in the GNS database. We
>>>>> cannot have a dysfunctional wikipedia, we need to contain both names
>>>>> and make it possible to navigate.
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan%C4%8Di%C4%87%27s_Peak
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> mike
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are, of course, correct, assuming the mountain has a commonly used
>>>> name in the Albanian language, whether it is on the border or not.
>>>
>>> The name is common, it is listed even in the albanian wikipedia,
>>> http://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maja_Pan%C3%A7iq
>>> It is on wikimapia
>>> http://wikimapia.org/7522941/sq/Maja-Pan%C3%A7iq
>>> listed in wikibooks http://sq.wikibooks.org/wiki/Tokajon/Fjalorthi
>>>
>>> It has 32 results on google, and at least it should be mentioned.
>>> The point is that we are forced to monitor all changes all the time
>>> because some editors have a bad habit of POV deleting data, it is
>>> reoccurring and very annoying.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> mike
>>>
>>
>> I think we'll have to have two lists for a while, as, according to one
>> strongly held point of view, Kosovo remains part of Serbia. Our selection
>> and naming of articles should not attempt to resolve an international
>> political issue.
>
> OK, well then it is a tolerated POV Fork. a exception to the rule. I
> have no problem with that,
> so what do you think about making the Albanian names of Serbian (and
> Kosovo) towns list, that should be also tolerated according to the
> existing pages. I would be happy with that, at least it would give our
> Kosovo team something that they would be happy to do,
> can I get some support for this idea?
> thanks,
> mike
>



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