[WikiEN-l] Administrator coup / mass deletions

[Carcharoth]

Oh, I will, just not right now. Wrong computer.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:09 PM, The Cunctator <cunctator at gmail.com> wrote:
> Sometimes I don't understand people. Carcharoth goes to the trouble of
> finding his birth date, learning he received the Brazilian Order of Merit,
> and lists out some copy errors, but then doesn't fix the page?
>
> I mean, what's the point?
>
> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:17 AM, Carcharoth <carcharothwp at googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Sarah Ewart <sarahewart at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:46 PM, George Herbert <
>> george.herbert at gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Where was Robert Corell's article previously?  Perhaps my search was
>> >> inadequate but I didn't find it looking quickly...
>> >
>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_W._Corell
>>
>> And no-one has yet created a redirect?
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Corell
>>
>> He also received the [[Brazilian Order of Scientific Merit]] (I got
>> that from "what links here", and then went looking for a source to
>> confirm that).
>>
>> http://www.mct.gov.br/index.php/content/view/11199.html
>>
>> And from here (IEEE Transactions on Geoscience Electronics, November 1968):
>>
>> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=04043245
>>
>> You can get his birth year (1934) and day (4 November) and other details.
>>
>> But that is a lucky find. Most sources don't say when he was born, and
>> that is generally an indication that comprehensive biographical
>> material is scarce, which in turn implies that no-one else has yet
>> really written a comprehensive biography.
>>
>> Which comes back to the point of whether Wikipedia should be the first
>> to do so (we can produce something similar to the mini-biographies
>> already out there, such as the four that The Cunctator found, which
>> are either institutional bios, or conference bios, but we can't go
>> beyond that until other sources do, which is generally towards the end
>> of someone's career, or at the point when obituaries are written).
>>
>> It also looks like it was rescued in a rush, six errors in grammar or
>> composition:
>>
>> "is prominent climate scientist"
>> "and he formerly as a"
>> "to ManyOne Networks, the and Chair"
>> "funding global change research"
>> The "sustainable development" header has stray formatting
>> "and international partnership"
>>
>> I wonder how many years it would have been before someone copyedited
>> it to fix those problems? I guess we will never know now. But this
>> feeds into my point about whether such articles should be brought to a
>> minimum standard, instead of roughly referenced along with a lot of
>> others ones being worked on at the same time, and then the people
>> doing this rough-and-ready referencing moving on to other articles?
>>
>> My standards would be to ensure minimum copyediting standards have
>> been met, that the birth year has been found and securely referenced,
>> and that a standalone biography (even if only a mini-biography from
>> who they work for, or a conference biography, or some form of press
>> release) is found and used as a reference.
>>
>> Carcharoth
>>
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