[WikiEN-l] Newbie and not-so-newbie biting

Emily Monroe bluecaliocean at me.com
Fri Sep 18 19:59:52 UTC 2009


> The argument that an article about a non-profit can't be an  
> advertisement is absurd.

Well, yeah. Non-profits can advertise as well. They have that right,  
if done in the proper place. The difference between a for-profit and  
non-profit corporations is non-profits, at least in spirit, aren't  
supposed to make any money. Advertising sometimes *cost* money.

Emily
On Sep 18, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Amory Meltzer wrote:

> I wouldn't exactly call that post "nice."  It reads to me like just
> another person complaining.  The argument that an article about a
> non-profit can't be an advertisement is absurd.  I recognize that NPPs
> should on the whole be nicer to submissions from newer users, but the
> overwhelming majority of speedily deleted articles deserve to be so.
> I don't understand why anyone would feel so entitled about a
> submission to what is essentially somebody else's website.
>
> ~A
>
> On Friday, September 18, 2009, Sage Ross <ragesoss 
> +wikipedia at gmail.com> wrote:
>> This isn't a new issue by any means, but here's a nice post by  
>> someone
>> who's been contributing occasionally since 2004, about how daunting
>> "wikibullying" can be for newbies and other editors who aren't
>> well-versed in the procedures and processes.
>>
>> http://travel-industry.uptake.com/blog/2009/09/04/bullypedia-a-wikipedian-whos-tired-of-getting-beat-up/
>>
>> Unfriendliness is built into the system, even when admins and others
>> who enforce the rules are perfectly civil and try to be friendly at  
>> an
>> individual level.
>>
>> -Sage
>>
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