[WikiEN-l] Deletion of unreferenced living person biographies

Emily Monroe bluecaliocean at me.com
Wed Sep 9 16:40:36 UTC 2009


> "Delete on sight" is unwiki, and violates several of our core  
> policies that supercede BLP including NPOV and CIVIL and their  
> subordinates.

True, but I see a lot of articles at new page patrol that also violate  
NPOV, CIVIL, or both. "I run this great business" is POV, not to  
mention SPAM. "Emily smells funny" violates CIVIL, and probably NPOV,  
too. It's astonishing to see how obvious somebody will violate  
Wikipedian article standards because they don't know what they're  
doing, and I wish there was a more civil way to fix that problem  
besides speedying their article and leaving them a "Welcome to  
Wikipedia! Your first article really sucks!" temp message.

Emily
On Sep 8, 2009, at 8:55 PM, stevertigo wrote:

> Andrew Turvey<andrewrturvey at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Clearly whether we allow "deletion on sight" or require proposers  
>> to improve articles first makes a big difference to whether this  
>> backlog will ever be cleared.
>
> A couple ideas:
>
> 1) "Delete on sight" is unwiki, and violates several of our core
> policies that supercede BLP including NPOV and CIVIL and their
> subordinates. "Speedy" concepts also tend to promote uncivil behavior,
> such that people occasionally will do things like not read what they
> want to delete ([[WP:MFD/SV/ONS]]), and try to close ongoing MFD's
> ([[WP:DRV/SV/ONS]]) and even ANI's ([[WP:RFAR/DPP]]).
>
> 2) As far as getting backlogs cleared up, we have a large number of
> people coming through the penal system (misnamed "Arbitration," for
> some reason) who may choose to do work as part of the agreeable
> remedy. In fact, if Arbcom starts shaping up in accord with the
> dynamics of creativity and invention, such as in some imaginary
> scenario wherein they were free to interact and act autonomously, then
> it will be fairly easy for the community, through them, to get people
> to work on the menial tasks that others like myself just will not do.
>
> -Stevertigo
>
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