[WikiEN-l] A new solution for the BLP dilemma

wjhonson at aol.com wjhonson at aol.com
Fri Jun 5 21:42:34 UTC 2009


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From: Durova <nadezhda.durova at gmail.com>
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] A new solution for the BLP dilemma

Of course ArbCom doesn't ban someone merely for correcting BLP 
problems; no
one suggests they did.

:The subject himself is no boy scout.  When he gained attention a ghost 
from
his closet emerged, and his attempts to deal with the resulting 
problems at
Wikipedia were so counterproductive that he got sitebanned.

BLP problems did exist, though--very serious ones.  For example, 
negative
information was being sourced to non-notable forums where the harasser 
had
impersonated the article subject.

The subject was trollable, and got trolled.  Wikipedia should have been 
able
to resolve that mess without so much wasted time on everybody's part.>>

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Whether anyone had impersonated the subject or not is speculation 
without any evidence other than the subject himself.

That his bank account was "cleaned up" or whether it was even related 
to his article is again speculation without any evidence other than the 
subject himself.

Negative information was sourced as well to nationally syndicated radio 
talk shows.  As you recall.

Matt is not an example of what you're trying to accomplish.  He did not 
want his article removed (initially), what he wanted was a whitewash.  
However he went on record stating that he used to be a male prostitute. 
  Investigations turned up his newspaper advertisements and his website 
advertising his sex services.  Those were linked directly to his own 
address and phone number.

The world in which we actually live, is one in which most people can be 
tracked, knowing only a few pieces of data.  This has occurred a number 
of times in-project and out, as you know.

No one makes your bed except you yourself.

Again this isn't a good example.  I'm sure you should be able to find a 
better one.

Will Johnson






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