[WikiEN-l] Policy inquiry - slack for blocked users venting on their talk page

Fred Bauder fredbaud at fairpoint.net
Wed Jul 8 18:53:23 UTC 2009


> The question being discussed there is:
>
> "Should a user's own talk page be considered differently? There has
> been discussion in past as to whether a post on a user's talk page,
> often in reply to a hostile poster, should be treated more leniently
> than posting elsewhere on other discussion or WP pages where dialogue
> occurs. Please indicate views below."
>
> That is different from the question here (which is a subset of that
> one), which is how to treat blocked, or recently blocked, users who
> are venting on their talk page at the injustice of being blocked.
>
> I would add that in this context, the "hostile poster" is sometimes
> the blocking admin making inflammatory remarks, or other users
> arriving to comment where they should stay away (I've been guilty of
> the latter, sometimes). There may be no hostile intent, but the
> blocked user can sometimes see the posts to their user pages as
> hostile, especially if they have just been blocked and are angry about
> it.
>
> Carcharoth
>

Even so great a personage as Larry Sanger got hostile if you posted
anything too critical or argumentative on his talk page. Some people are
just that way. Better not to fight human nature. (Also better to never
give them the mop)

Fred

> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Durova<nadezhda.durova at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Actually, a current poll is running 38-18 in favor of treating talk
>> page
>> incivility the same as incivility anywhere else.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility/Poll#Should_a_user.27s_own_talk_page_be_considered_differently.3F
>>
>> -Durova
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 5:58 AM, FT2 <ft2.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Such an approach may be better than extending the block, since it
>>> prevents
>>> them acting up while blocked"...
>>>
>>> Better: *"Such an approach may be better than extending the block,
>>> since it
>>> prevents them acting up and creating a spiral of increased problems
>>> for
>>> themselves while they are blocked." *
>>>
>>> In simple terms, the aim is that users who would talk themselves out
>>> of a
>>> mild heated point into a major division and hardened stance, should
>>> not be
>>> pushed in the latter direction by punishing their ignorable anger at
>>> the
>>> block.
>>>
>>> At the same time the preventative/deterrent purpose of the original
>>> block
>>> (intended to say "you can't act that way here") should equally be
>>> respected,
>>> and if their response is not so ignorable that should be respected
>>> too.
>>>
>>> >
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