[WikiEN-l] Well-sourced nonsense vs. unsourced competence

FT2 ft2.wiki at gmail.com
Sat Aug 29 09:20:52 UTC 2009


One immediate if minor advantage: old references don't get lost from the
text, when their first mention is removed.

FT2


On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM, FT2 <ft2.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually is there a reason why refs couldn't have a separate section?
>
> The main disadvantage would be technical - revision data held in an extra
> field.
>
> What you'd have is a list of named references, and the main text only
> including <ref name="WHATEVER" /> and <references /> tags. As the cursor
> moves to a ref tag in the article, the references list (separate text box
> below) scrolls to that citation, which can be edited.
>
> Some minor details to be worked out but... any mileage?
>
> FT2
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:53 AM, stevertigo <stvrtg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well-sourced junk that reads like it belongs on Simple En.wiki:
>>
>> '''Adaptation''' is one of the basic phenomena of
>> biology.<ref>Williams, George C. 1966. ''Adaptation and natural
>> selection: a critique of some current evolutionary thought''.
>> Princeton. "Evolutionary adaptation is a phenomenon of pervasive
>> importance in biology." p5</ref> It is the process whereby an organism
>> becomes better suited to its [[habitat]].<ref>The ''Oxford Dictionary
>> of Science'' defines ''adaptation'' as "Any change in the structure or
>> functioning of an organism that makes it better suited to its
>> environment".</ref> Also, the term ''adaptation'' may refer to a
>> characteristic which is especially important for an organism's
>> survival.<ref>Both uses of the term 'adaptation' are recognized by
>> King R.C. Stansfield W.D. and Mulligan P. 2006. ''A dictionary of
>> genetics''. Oxford, 7th ed.</ref> For example, the adaptation of
>> horses' teeth to the grinding of grass, or their ability to run fast
>> and escape predators. Such adaptations are produced in a variable
>> population by the better suited forms reproducing more successfully,
>> that is, by [[natural selection]].
>>
>> The above will be changed, obviously. Note also the large inline
>> <refs> make editing difficult, which in turn lets nonsense writing
>> persist. If we can't come up with some better technical means of
>> separation - all ref tags under their own invisible section maybe -
>> then at least carriage-returns - putting the <ref> on the next line -
>> would work well enough. Still showing up the same in view mode, but
>> the text can actually be readable in edit mode).
>>
>> Anyway, working on something unsourced like:
>>
>> In [[biology]], '''adaptation''' is an observed ''effect'' of the
>> process of [[evolution]]  &mdash;wherein canonical [[organism]]s
>> (species) appear to [[change]] over time to survive more efficiently
>> within their [[habitat]]. The concept of adaptation was developed
>> before the theory of evolution &mdash;Lamarck had made some
>> groundbreaking observations which inspired Darwin. "Adaptation" in
>> reality does not refer to changes within individual organisms, but to
>> the canonical form of the species &mdash; changes brought about by a
>> process of [[natural selection]]. "Adaptation" in the context of
>> biology, thus is a largely a colloquialism for natural selection.
>>
>> -Stevertigo
>> Sources available upon request.
>>
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