[WikiEN-l] Civility poll results

[Emily Monroe]

> Personally I don't think any editor, other than simple vandals  
> should be able to be blocked "indefinitely" by admin action alone.   
> Too much room for abuse based on content issues.

Maybe have a "Except for simple, and obvious, vandals, indefinite  
blocks will be voted on in the community or ARBCOM and acted upon by  
an admin."?


On Aug 13, 2009, at 7:55 PM, wjhonson at aol.com wrote:

> Personally I don't think any editor, other than simple vandals should
> be able to be blocked "indefinitely" by admin action alone.  Too much
> room for abuse based on content issues.
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> From: Emily Monroe <bluecaliocean at me.com>
> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Thu, Aug 13, 2009 5:43 pm
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Civility poll results
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>> Any such block for more than 24 hours is likely punitive.
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> True. Maybe we can do something along the lines of "Four 12-24 hour
> civility blocks, and you'll be blocked indefinitely." or live
> indefinite blocks up to the community. I'd prefer the latter.
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>> Saying "we'll give you another chance, and not many more," is a
>> power move where you are using your superior privileges, shrouded in
>> a royal "we", to intimidate the other person into complying with
>> what you believe to be the rules.
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> Okay. What if the person has an attitude that is interfering with
> writing articles? What if several people do? "We" agree that there's a
> point that incivility shouldn't be tolerated.
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> Emily
> On Aug 13, 2009, at 11:44 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
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>> Emily Monroe wrote:
>>>> It's a basic reality of life as an adult that employees with  
>>>> perfect
>>>> work product but terrible attitudes are often terminated; their own
>>>> work is fine, but their presence disrupts the work of others.
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>>> I agree. I sincerely believe that civility blocks are necessary. Not
>>> as a punishment, or a chance to "cool down", but as a way to say
>>> "Your
>>> attitude is disrupting Wikipedia, and preventing it from improving.
>>> Come back in [12/24 hours/a week/a month/whatever] and we'll give  
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>>> another chance, and not many more."
>> Any such block for more than 24 hours is likely punitive. Saying
>> "we'll
>> give you another chance, and not many more," is a power move where  
>> you
>> are using your superior privileges, shrouded in a royal "we", to
>> intimidate the other person into complying with what you believe to  
>> be
>> the rules. You have already found him guilty.
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>> Ec
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