[WikiEN-l] Civility poll results

[Surreptitiousness]

I don't disagree at al', but the arbitration committee have tended to 
take the view that incivility alone is not a reason to remove the admin 
toolbox and flag.  Our selection process for crats actually seems to 
work very well, because they seem to handle themselves well, and when 
there is a problem, they tend to fall on their swords, which in one 
sense is a good thing.  I don't have much experience with Stewards, 
though. But yes, I've always followed Spider-Man, and thought that with 
great power comes great responsibility. 

Emily Monroe wrote:
> Hmm. What about somebody who has privileges?
>
> Clearly somebody who has non-admin rollback (like myself) may or may  
> not have it removed. It would depend if the person being incivil is  
> using the rollback to be incivil. Non-admin rollback is a position of  
> trust, but not a lot of trust.
>
> An admin, steward, or bureaucrat, on the other hand, may have their  
> privileges taken away. If you are in such a position, you're in a  
> position of not just trust, but *trust*. Incivility takes away that  
> trust.
>
> People may disagree with me, though. I get that.
>
> Emily
> On Aug 12, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Surreptitiousness wrote:
>
>   
>> Emily Monroe wrote:
>>     
>>>> It's a basic reality of life as an adult that employees with perfect
>>>> work product but terrible attitudes are often terminated; their own
>>>> work is fine, but their presence disrupts the work of others.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> I agree. I sincerely believe that civility blocks are necessary. Not
>>> as a punishment, or a chance to "cool down", but as a way to say  
>>> "Your
>>> attitude is disrupting Wikipedia, and preventing it from improving.
>>> Come back in [12/24 hours/a week/a month/whatever] and we'll give you
>>> another chance, and not many more."
>>>
>>> Emily
>>>
>>>       
>> I agree emphatically.
>>
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