[WikiEN-l] Lies, damned lies, and statistics

Durova nadezhda.durova at gmail.com
Fri Apr 17 14:25:54 UTC 2009


In the long run--ten and thirty years from now--the merit of Sanger's claim
to coufoundership of Wikipedia is likely to be measured by the success of
Citizendium.

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen <
cimonavaro at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ken Arromdee wrote:
> >>> He obviously is claiming that things which we say are true, aren't.
>  Even
> >>> in
> >>> the non-article case, where he objects to the factual content of
> >>> proclamations
> >>> by us instead of articles by us, this is something we should pay
> attention
> >>> to.>>
> >>>
> >> Proclamations by Jimmy, not by anyone else.
> >>
> >
> > Is it clear that the proclamations from him don't necessarily represent
> our
> > opinion and should not be taken as such (particularly by reporters)?
> >
> >
> >
>
> Yes it actually was. The context in which the *interpretations*
> of the historical events by Jimbo which got up Mr. Sanger's nose
> were expressed, was clearly one in which Jimbo was speaking in
> a personal faculty, and not as a representative of the foundation,
> and in my view fell squarely on freedom of opinion.
>
> There are issues of fact which support a different interpretation
> than the one Jimbo appears to uphold, but in the final analysis
> it all hinges on what ones definition of the term "co-founder" is,
> and is it something formal that is inalienable; call somebody a
> co-founder once and you can't correct the record later. A favorable
> gloss on the interpretation Jimbo holds is that the early mentions
> of Mr. Sanger as a co-founder were symbolic and as a courtesy and
> as such not to be taken as a comment on his role in terms of
> historical fact.
>
>
> Yours,
>
> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
>
>
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