[WikiEN-l] AFD has gone to a 7 day cycle

Will sceptre at tintower.co.uk
Sat Apr 11 02:02:50 UTC 2009


We should codify against this somewhere. AFAIK, it's still an unwritten
rule. But this is the second time a discussion about a significant change
has been closed by someone who voted for it (the first being flagged
revisions). The first time could be seen as Jimbo's prerogative, but
SilkTork, AFAIK, doesn't have a similar power. It's indicative of a problem
regarding process.

I should point out I find it funny that the discussion partially about
closing AfDs early got closed early itself. Twelve days is a weird number;
RfCs themselves tend to go on two to four weeks. Hopefully, though, SNOW
should still be accepted, if its users use it diligently; not willy-nilly.

2009/4/11 Risker <risker.wp at gmail.com>

> Oh, and discussion closed by someone who participated.  Just as an aside.
>
> Risker
>
> 2009/4/11 George Herbert <george.herbert at gmail.com>
>
> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Ron Ritzman <ritzman at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:18 PM, doc <doc.wikipedia at ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
> > > > Al Tally wrote:
> > > >> On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Ron Ritzman <ritzman at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion#Proposal_to_change_the_length_of_deletion_discussions_to_7_days
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> I wonder when the plan to inform the community was? It might seem
> like
> > a
> > > >> minor change, but it's a significant one. AFD/VFD has been 5 days
> > since,
> > > >> what, when it was created? It's a fairly entrenched system.
> Pointless
> > in
> > > my
> > > >> view to extend by 2 days. People will simply not remember what
> they've
> > > been
> > > >> practising for years.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > Wow. Where was this advertised? I missed it.
> > > >
> > > > AdD really does seem a law unto itself. Is 45 people supporting this
> > > > change really enough?
> > >
> > > The same can be asked for any proposed policy change. Considering the
> > > current size of the project I don't think it's possible to involve
> > > enough of the community in any such discussion no matter how it's
> > > announced. Remember the spoiler thing a few years ago? Most editors
> > > had no clue about the change until spoiler tags were being mass AWBed
> > > out of articles.
> >
> >
> > Pointers on AN?  The policies part of the village pump?
> >
> > If it was there and I missed it, my bad.  If there wasn't anything
> there...
> >
> >
> > --
> > -george william herbert
> > george.herbert at gmail.com
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