[WikiEN-l] NPOV is a big lie

Tris Thomas Tris at waterhay.co.uk
Thu Apr 9 13:35:30 UTC 2009


Um, don't think so!

Again, this is an isolated example.  There may be many articles like 
this, but overall they will be a tiny percentage of the total articles 
in Wikipedia.  NPOV has by no means been achieved throughout Wikipedia, 
as said before it's a goal & many articles are neutral & reliable.

On 09/04/2009 14:33, Bill Carter wrote:
> Tris: You're not insane, are you?
>
> Alan Cabal's name was just struck once again from the New York Press article.
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> From: Tris Thomas<Tris at waterhay.co.uk>
> To: English Wikipedia<wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 9:28:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] NPOV is a big lie
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> Bill-I'm sure there are some examples as you have shown of articles gone
> wrong, but I'm sure that these are in the minority.  As far as I've
> found it, Wikipedia has been a generally neutral&  reliable source, with
> the odd exceptions.
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> Tris
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> On 09/04/2009 14:24, Bill Carter wrote:
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>> FT2: You must be a part of Wikipedia's propaganda ministry. I offer you facts about one striking instance in which journalist Alan Cabal has been maligned over and over again. Who knows how many other
>> Wikipedia articles are being treated in such a way, and only if people
>> come forward will we get a good idea.
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>> From: FT2<ft2.wiki at gmail.com>
>> To: English Wikipedia<wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 7:16:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] NPOV is a big lie
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>> This is (when stripped down) basically a "straw man" post. It uses quotes by
>> others saying "A"as a rhetoric device in a question where the issue isn't
>> "A" at all, and in effect, conflates the two to try and make its point. It
>> then presents its point as made when in fact it hasn't made it at all, nor
>> even contains any attempt to do so. It's either sloppy logic or a rhetoric
>> device. Either way it has no place in honest communication, except as a
>> mistake to be retracted when spotted.
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