[WikiEN-l] Saying no to new unreferenced BLPs

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Thu Apr 2 19:25:22 UTC 2009


Personally I could agree that the power to "remove reviewer right" could 
be restricted to some special class of user, but only if the power to 
"grant reviewer right" is subject to even more scrutiny.

If reviewer right is wrongly removed - we'll have the internal problem 
of an upset editor (big deal? not - get over it!), however if it is 
granted to someone who misuses it then it breaches our quality control 
and can damage living people.

I really have little sympathy for those more concerned about internal 
power structures or egalitarian principles in wikiland, that how what we 
do impacts on the reader, and more importantly the bio subject who is 
the victim of our structural carelessness.



WJhonson at aol.com wrote:
> <<In a message dated 4/2/2009 5:18:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
> carcharothwp at googlemail.com writes:
> 
> Will,  look at the example I provided earlier in this thread.
> Established editors  and admins were blindly reverting vandalism and
> leaving an article in a  state of previous vandalism. How do you begin
> to address that  problem?>>
>  
> You don't address it by allowing any admin who got their badge knowing next  
> to nothing about NOR (as many don't) do remove the right of established users  
> who have been in-project ten times longer than they.  I will never, not  
> ever, agree to giving admins extra powers.  They already have several  powers they 
> should not have in my opinion.  The idea behind admins, imho,  was supposed 
> to be that they are helpful janitors clearning up messes, not theat  they were 
> thought police enforcing the boundary line with clubs.
>  
> If we want to create new powers, then we need perhaps new categories of  
> user.  For those users who do not want to be police, but are quite willing  to 
> enhance the content of the project, we should create a parallel track, not a  
> subordinate one.  No matter what anyone states, if a reviewer's right can  be 
> removed at the whim (yes whim) of any admin, then reviewers are subordinate  to 
> admins.  They should not be.
>  
> Will Johnson
>  
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