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[Steven Walling]

 haven't seen any low-status editors
making jokes about cabals. i wonder why.

how would you define "low status" Non-admins? I don't think heirarchy on the
wiki is that concrete. I'm not an admin or "high status", and I find the
Cabal humor page uplifting. It defuses my urge to assume bad faith.

On Jan 30, 2008 2:41 PM, David Goodman <dgoodmanny at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think any joke about a cabal is a disaster, and an example of trying to
> inappropriate defuse what is a serious concern. This is all the more true
> when the people involved are important enough to be part of a real cabal
> if
> there were one. Come to think of it, I haven't seen any low-status editors
> making jokes about cabals. i wonder why.
>
> On Jan 30, 2008 3:13 PM, Steven Walling <steven.walling at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So, as far as you're concerned I can setup some joke page entirely
> > unrelated to Wikipedia on Wikipedia. Redirect a domain name to it. Use
> > CSS hacks to overwrite the user interface. .. and keep it protected to
> > prevent unapproved people from modifying my website.   Did I get that
> > right?
> >
> > First off, I didn't know it was protected. That is inappropriate, and
> > makes
> > no sense.
> >
> > But the Bathrobe Cabal isn't just a joke page. It's a humorous page that
> > is
> > a community building tool for admins and a resource for non-admins to
> find
> > help from a friendly and knowledgeable set of sysops, which is far
> useful
> > than a lot of the off-topic userpage stuff that gets let alone. I do not
> > understand that logic of attacking an obviously useful page just because
> > someone has bought and redirected an outside domain to it. It's more
> than
> > just "no harm done". There is a palpable benefit to the page.
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2008 11:36 AM, Bryan Derksen <bryan.derksen at shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> > > Peter Ansell wrote:
> > > > If they leave because a userspace page, which was not promoting
> > > > collaboration on wikipedia articles, was deleted then they were *not
> > > > valuable* to the encyclopedia.
> > >
> > > That seems like an extremely petty criterion of "value." Have you
> > > checked the contributions lists of the Bathrobe Cabal members? If all
> > > they do is work on the Bathrobe Cabal page, sure, no big loss. But
> > > considering they have to run the gauntlet of RfA to join the Bathrobe
> > > Cabal that seems unlikely. Almost by definition they've had to
> > > contribute a lot of valuable work to Wikipedia to get there.
> > >
> > > > It could however be affected if others figure out that admins aren't
> > > > consistent and chuck a fuss because their Userspace pages were
> deleted
> > > > for the same reason that page was kept in a shortened discussion.
> > >
> > > We could leave all harmless user subpages like this one alone,
> > > admin-created or not. That would be a consistent approach.
> > >
> > >
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