Forget NPOV, forget policy. I'm talking about doing what is right.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ad_hominem
noun
2. an attempt to argue against an opponent's idea by discrediting the
opponent himself
As I am sure this was unintentional, it unfortunate that it was ad hominem
for you to link to the discussion then accuse folks that are conducting it
"pulling a fast one". In this environment, it is unhelpful and appears
improper.
It is proper for you to say things like
-quote-
Does NPOV apply to the mailing list now?
- end quote -
But the more you do, the less I'll say things like
-quote-
" You may not have meant it [canvassing]"
And
" As I am sure this was unintentional [attacking opponents credit]"
-end quote-
I hope it was unintentional that you did in fact do these things.
Regards,
Mercury
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NavouWiki wrote:
I'm sure you could have put it another way then
you did.
But to link to a discussion, then to say "you feel" like a fast one is
being
pulled, I think was improper. You may not have meant
it, but it had the
unintended effect of being in the back of my mind when I was evaluating
the
discussion. We have to be mindful that we do not
canvass, directly or
indirectly. We also have to be careful not to sully people
unintentionally.
..."this one feels a little like an attempt to pull a fast one."
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pull_a_fast_one
Please consider your wording when linking discussion in the future on this
list.
Best regards,
Mercury
I firstly invited the proposers to advertise here themselves, they
didn't want to.
Frankly, the timing of the poll with its incredibly short duration, and
the dismissal of the concerns when I raised them quietly with the
proposers worried me far more than the policy itself. Attempts to create
policy in this way look less than transparent.
I was not posting here to "advertise" the poll, as much as to express my
frustration and concern at the way it was being conducted.
Am I not allowed to do that? Does NPOV apply to the mailing list now?
Doc
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