On 02/04/2008, Peter Ansell <ansell.peter(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Also, just for interest sake, why was the following
edit made [1] ...
when it is clear that it is allowed previously anyway. In the future
will people be told that Wikipedia is licensed under "version 2.2 or
later" or "1.3 or later" when it is clear some contributions are
inevitably available under 1.1 and it should be clear that it is 1.1
or later. Using "or later" or unilaterally changing the base version
doesn't invalidate ones right to interpret the prior versions as
binding on text contributed under them. (Interestingly that change was
made after the Bomis collection copyright notice was removed so it is
unclear who has the copyright on the collection in order to possibly
delegitimise the use of 1.1 to interpret text contributed pre that
date, and text modified post that date)
Remember, Wikipedia is a user of the content just like anyone else is.
It can use the content under any license it's been released under. The
content which was released early on when we used 1.1 can be used under
1.1 or 1.2, Wikipedia chooses to use it under 1.2. That doesn't stop
other people using it under 1.1 if they want to (they may have
difficultly working out what content is available under that version,
but that's not Wikipedia's problem [at least, not legally speaking]).
Really should include all of the relevant licenses
instead of just the
current one implying that everything is in the current one.
I like the approach of a number of open source projects who form
foundations to own the copyright to contributed material, as they
avoid these thorny issues with relicensing past works.
Peter
[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Copyrights&diff=108…
On 02/04/2008, Philip Sandifer <snowspinner(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 1, 2008, at 6:36 PM, Peter Ansell wrote:
> > 'All text is available
under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation
> > License' at the bottom of every page
>
> > See Section 4.K on the
wikipedia hosted page [1]
>
> >
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_the_GNU_Free_Documentation_L…
>
> > I was never shown the
"no invariant sections" statement when I
> > contributed my past entries, and to change the license would be to
> > relicence everyones contributions...
>
> > It is entirely logical
that if someone is contributing as part of an
> > academic grant that they should be able to acknolwedge that.
> Not at present an issue, as nobody added invariant sections or
> acknowledgements previously. Thus there are no previous contributions
> with invariant sections to be irritated about. Furthermore, the terms
> do not forbid the creation of derivative works with invariant sections
> - that is, we are not creating a new license called "GFDL Without
> Invariant Sections." We are saying "By hitting the submit button you
> are saying that the text in this window is GFDL and has no invariant
> sections."
> -Phil
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