[WikiEN-l] Spam blacklist and BADSITES

[Todd Allen]

fredbaud at waterwiki.info wrote:
> There has been extensive discussion, although not in a public forum. We have had enough of Judd Bagley and his site.
>
> Fred
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Adrian [mailto:aldebaer at googlemail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2007 03:15 PM
>> To: 'English Wikipedia'
>> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Spam blacklist and BADSITES
>>
>> fredbaud at waterwiki.info schrieb:
>>     
>>> I think there is a consensus.
>>>
>>> Fred
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> Although I personally agree to blacklisting that site, looking at the 
>> current, related request for arbitration gives the impression that 
>> sufficient consensus does not really exist.
>>
>> At the very least the *timing* of both the Afd for [[Judd Bagley]] and 
>> this blacklisting are rather questionable.
>>
>>
>>     
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Daniel R. Tobias [mailto:dan at tobias.name]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2007 02:21 PM
>>>> To: wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org
>>>> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Spam blacklist and BADSITES
>>>>
>>>> User:JzG has just, without any discussion whatsoever, added 
>>>> antisocialmedia.net to the English Wikipedia spam blacklist, although 
>>>> usual practice is to discuss all entries in the talk page beforehand. 
>>>> Since this is a site that has been termed a so-called "attack site" 
>>>> because it reveals information about certain prominent Wikipedians 
>>>> that they want to suppress, adding it to the spam blacklist serves as 
>>>> yet another backdoor to sneak in a spawn of the failed BADSITES 
>>>> policy to censor discussion. The spam blacklist is intended for the 
>>>> specific purpose of stopping spammed links to irrelevant sites, and I 
>>>> know of no consensus for any policy to (ab)use it in other manners.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> == Dan ==
>>>>
>>>>         
>> In my opinion, this site should have been blacklisted ages ago, and I 
>> asked related question a while back.
>>
>> Adrian
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"Not in a public forum" is the antithesis of widespread consensus. At
the very most, a consensus may exist among whoever was privy to that
discussion, but I have a sneaking suspicion that is less than one
percent of those who have commented on the BADSITES issue, let alone of
Wikipedians in general.

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