[WikiEN-l] BADSITES ArbCom case about to close

Daniel R. Tobias dan at tobias.name
Thu Oct 18 00:58:27 UTC 2007


On 17 Oct 2007 at 16:58:02 +0000, fredbaud at waterwiki.info wrote:

> Please don't republish personal attacks on other users.

But you just did, not too long ago; you posted a screenshot of the 
version of the Michael Moore site that included a personal attack on 
a Wikipedian, a version that's no longer in place on the Moore site 
itself.  Like many people on all sides of the debates about so-called 
"attack sites", you've run into the problem that it's difficult to 
conduct a reasonable discussion of such sites without, at least 
sometimes, getting specific about what is in them, giving links, 
quotes, screenshots, and so on.  Without this, you're left using 
vague generalities and contrived fake examples, which don't work very 
well to truly explain to people what is actually on the sites being 
discussed and why people have such strong feelings about them.  Thus, 
even strong opponents of attack sites have sometimes linked to them; 
I gave a few examples of this on the evidence page of the ArbCom 
case.  The idea that all links and references to those sites under 
any circumstances are always wrong does not come naturally even to 
many people whose main aim is to express how evil they think those 
sites are.


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