[WikiEN-l] Happy birthday to me...

[John Reaves]

I'd favor an unban (using the Flameviper account) if it'd keep you from
whining (or whinging was it?) on the mailing lists and IRC.

--John Reaves

On Nov 27, 2007 5:31 PM, David Goodman <dgoodmanny at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think it is safe in general to let a banned editor return under a
> specific named account after a public declaration of true identity.
> Everyone will be watching.  What damage could be done t hat could not
> be immediately stopped and reverted?
>
> On 11/27/07, Monahon, Peter B. <Peter.Monahon at uspto.gov> wrote:
> > > Earlier: "... I constantly whinge ...
> >
> > ... [from bartleby.com, whinge = chiefly British to complain or protest,
> > especially in an annoying or persistent manner; versus (US?) whine = to
> > complain or protest in a childish fashion] ...
> >
> > > ... about being banned.  But it just sucks to be in this position,
> > because I can't edit
> > > the encyclopedia, I can't go on a forum (which is admittedly not your
> > fault), I can't go
> > > on IRC, all that's left for me to do is to go on the mailing list.
> > Pre-emptive counter to
> > > "go outside": I do, often, and it sucks ... I don't like this any more
> > than you do.  It's
> > > more painful to write this than it is to read it, trust me.  I'd just
> > like to get this over
> > > with, so that I can go back to editing the encyclopedia.  Then I could
> > talk about things
> > > that actually mattered on the mailing list, instead of watching
> > through the frosted
> > > glass of banishment ..."
> >
> > Peter Blaise responds:
> >
> > Regarding "... talk about things that actually mattered ..."  I think
> > discussions about banning always matter.  Until we ban banning.  Then we
> > can talk about the next impatient, intolerant, un-accepting,
> > non-equivalent consideration thing we do to each other.
> >
> > Regarding "... It's more painful to write this than it is to read it..."
> > I have no doubt, yet anyone here who doesn't want to read can just
> > scroll on, and instead, we can read (or write) something we prefer.
> >
> > But, I see that we do tend to spend a significant portion of our dialog
> > reviewing the details of banning.  I guess, after all, we still believe
> > banning has positives that outweigh the negatives.  Yet, the balance
> > between the pros and cons of banning seems quite different for each of
> > us, eh?  So, I guess we'll just have to keep discussing the inner
> > details of banning, case by case, ad infinitum, ad naseum.
> >
> > I can't find the quote, but I think it was U. S. President Kennedy who
> > is reported to have said something like, "If we make peaceful protest
> > impossible ..."  Can anyone find and finish the quote / idea?  Thanks.
> >
> >
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