[WikiEN-l] Missed Opportunities to have avoided the Durova Case

[Christiano Moreschi]

Oh? I remain to be convinced. Why, then, did Durova think it quite alright to post her evidence to !! to this list? Why do we have good people, like Krimpet, being attacked on this mailing list? Why do we have two of our finest, Thatcher131 and Alison (now a CU), signing up to this list and then rapidly unsubscribing when they find it wasn't, after all, that it was cooked up to be. In fact, Alison memorably described it as chock-full of "bitterness, anger and wikipolitics". Oh dear.

And why, then, did we think it quite alright to set up a bastard child to wpcyberstalking, wpinvestigations-1? This little list I know quite a lot about - I've seen some truly bizarre and quite terrifying conversations, including some posts that make you wonder how on earth something like the block of !! didn't happen a lot earlier. Sockpuppet paranoia, investigation obsession, weird suggestions for the CUs galore - it's got the lot, baby. In fact, Thatcher summed this wretched list up very nicely: "...unhelpful and possible dangerous development. Blocks and such should be
discussed and documented on Wiki whenever possible. In extraordinary
circumstances evidence may need to be kept private, but those cases
should be dealt with by Arbcom, who were elected for that purpose,
rather than a group of self-selected investigators who may lack proper
perspective."

Wikipedia is not a MMORG for SlimVirgin to play webmaster to.

CM


Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.

> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:51:27 -0800
> From: jwales at wikia.com
> To: wikien-l at lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Missed Opportunities to have avoided the Durova Case
> 
> Matthew Brown wrote:
> > On Nov 26, 2007 9:55 PM, Steve Summit <scs at eskimo.com> wrote:
> >> Yow.  I, for one, didn't know that (though I can't say I'm surprised).
> > 
> > I'd advise you to be a little more cautious about taking everything
> > Alec says here at face value.  He's presenting it from the
> > maximum-drama, maximum-assumption-of-bad-faith point of view, in my
> > opinion.
> 
> I do not want to criticize Alec or his motives.  But having been a 
> participant on the mailing list in question from day one, I can say with 
> absolute confidence that it is not and was not in any way nefarious, and 
> that the representations being made about it here and on-wiki are just 
> silly.
> 
> A good group of users got together independently to talk about the very 
> real problem of cyberstalking of Wikipedia admins.  This is something 
> that all of us should be concerned about.  The problem is difficult and 
> complex, and it is not made easier by "free speechers" who like to make 
> the biggest wikidrama out of everything that they can.
> 
> --Jimbo
> 
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