[WikiEN-l] Missed Opportunities to have avoided the Durova Case

[Relata Refero]

You are setting up a false contradiction. 'Collusion', in Bryan's words,
might have existed off the public list, once the evidence has been presented
to the entire set. Matthew specifically laid that possibility open, in fact.


On Nov 27, 2007 9:43 PM, jayjg <jayjg99 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Nov 27, 2007 11:12 AM, Bryan Derksen <bryan.derksen at shaw.ca> wrote:
> > Guy Chapman aka JzG wrote:
> > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:04:44 -0700, Bryan Derksen
> > > <bryan.derksen at shaw.ca> wrote:
> > >> A major line is crossed when that "private letting-off of steam"
> results
> > >> in administrators blocking users and then refusing to reveal why they
> > >> did it, though. This wasn't just some private venting session that
> leaked.
> > >> If an administrator were to block someone with the explanation "I ran
> > >> this by some people on an IRC channel and they okayed it, but I can't
> > >> tell you who or where or why", that would quite rightly result in a
> > >> furore. "Some people on an IRC channel" don't have any authority to
> okay
> > >> anything.
> > >
> > > I completely agree.  I think I've even said as much.  The point here
> > > is that this would not mean it was IRC that was to blame for the
> > > cock-up, it would be the admin's fault.
> >
> > I would also want to know who "some people" were, and whether they
> > really thought they had the authority to okay this or if the admin was
> > just blowing smoke about having their support.
> >
> > If Durova "simply screwed up", fine, her bad. But if there's a group of
> > like-minded editors who were colluding on this and she just happens to
> > have had the bad luck to take the fall, I don't want the rest to meekly
> > and secretively creep back to whatever they were doing behind closed
> > doors that resulted in this happening. I want to make sure this attitude
> > and this bad process is rooted out.
>
>
> Bryan, I've read through this e-mail thread, and in it I see both
> Matthew and Guy saying clearly and unequivocally that Durova did not
> even *propose* blocking !! on the private lists, much less get
> approval for it. Do you think they are both lying?
>
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