[WikiEN-l] BLP, and admin role in overriding community review

[jkelly at fas.harvard.edu]

  Todd,

  I'm not sure that it makes sense at this point to use the word 'consensus' at
all when referring to en:.  Regardless, if you mean "such that every single
person involved, including the editor who originally raised the concern, agrees
that the problem is fixed", we are probably in agreement about what should
happen.  If you are using "consensus" to mean "51% of the voters at Deletion
Review", then we don't agree.

  Your complaint about "giving every user office powers" suggests that you are
using the word 'consensus' to mean something more like the latter.  You are
assuming in your concern that the person raising the concern cannot be
satisfied that the problem is fixed, and you want it to be possible to outvote
them.  That's precisely the problem that needs fixing, and taking away the
ability to undelete from some users who don't seem to be using it wisely is one
way of tackling that problem.

                       Jkelly





Quoting Todd Allen <toddmallen at gmail.com>:
> What I said is that it should -stay gone- until discussion takes place.
> However, my concern is that Fred effectively said that even if the
> matter is discussed, and consensus is "This is not problematic, it does
> not violate policy", anyone-even who acts on that consensus-would be
> penalized for doing so.
>
> I agree that if someone brings up BLP concerns, we should err on the
> side of caution until the matter is discussed, and that no one who acts
> on a BLP concern should be reversed unilaterally. But it shouldn't be
> closed to discussion or immune to consensus.
>
>