[WikiEN-l] BLP, and admin role in overriding community review

Fred Bauder fredbaud at waterwiki.info
Wed May 23 21:37:40 UTC 2007



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Todd Allen [mailto:toddmallen at gmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 03:26 PM
>To: 'English Wikipedia'
>Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] BLP, and admin role in overriding community review
>
>Fred Bauder wrote:
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Trebor Rowntree [mailto:trebor.rowntree at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 03:11 PM
>>> To: 'English Wikipedia'
>>> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] BLP, and admin role in overriding community review
>>>
>>> This just goes round in circles. Admins can delete unsourced or attack
>>> articles based on BLP concerns. This can then be reviewed. The review should
>>> be closed based on consensus, not votes. But consensus is subjective, people
>>> judge it based on who they think has the stronger argument. Those who feel
>>> that the article should be deleted think that the consensus is to keep
>>> deleted for the BLP issues; those who feel the article should exist think
>>> the consensus is to undelete it, because the fact the article is sourced
>>> means that BLP isn't an issue. Both sides seem utterly convinced that
>>> they're indisputably correct, and spend most of the time talking past each
>>> other.
>>>
>>> As I see it, at some point the goal of being a perfectly neutral
>>> encyclopaedia and the goal of not being dicks can't coincide; the dispute is
>>> over where the line should be drawn.
>>> 
>>
>> It does not run in a circle. If BLP is invoked the article remains deleted until it is determined by the arbitration committee that BLP does not apply.
>>
>> Fred
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>Is that to state, then, that every BLP deletion which is challenged will
>require an arbitration request?

Worse than that, acceptance of an arbitration request.

Fred



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