[WikiEN-l] Requirements for Adminship

[Stan Shebs]

Ray Saintonge wrote:
> Stan Shebs wrote:
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>> Marc Riddell wrote:
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>>> on 2/19/07 4:50 PM, Jossi Fresco at jossifresco at mac.com wrote:
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>>>> I speak of a culture that has
>>>> produced the most amazing results in the history of on-line
>>>> collaboration.
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>>> Is the same culture that began WP the same one in place today?
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>> I just crossed my four-year anniversary, and while I can't speak to the 
>> beginning, the culture hasn't really changed much in my time here. 
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> I thought you were here longer than that.  I think the culture has 
> changed.  The Seigenthaler incident was a big turning point in that.  
> After that the rule bound control freaks seem to have become more 
> dominant.  We had to respond to Seigenthaler, but in the process we 
> ended up with a lot of unnecesarily restrictive procedures.
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That's a good point. I guess I saw it as more of a course correction 
than a cultural change; people were citing sources before, but if they 
didn't, there was less of a willingness to challenge the unsourced 
material. Certainly there are more process freaks today, but there are 
more editors of all kinds - has the percentage of process freaks gone 
up? I don't have any sense about that.

Another thing I wonder about is the extent to which the procedures have 
actually changed the culture. Article life cycle seems pretty much the 
same, editor interactions seem mostly the same, the mix of editor types 
and personalities seems the same. Lots of content is being added with 
nary an edit war or rouge admin dispute; I find myself missing good new 
material all the time, because it goes unnoticed in the RC flood, while 
DYK is just a small fraction of what's coming in.

Stan