[WikiEN-l] Category:Jews -> Category:Jewsih people

[jayjg]

No, it was not a sarcasm. When used as a verb or adverb, "Jew" is
offensive. When used as a noun, it is not, and, as the American
Heritage Dictionary points out, implying that the word "Jew" is
inherently "vulgar" can, in itself, be offensive. There's nothing
wrong with the noun "Jew", let's not be afraid to use it
appropriately; there's no need for wordy circumlocutions like "Jewish
person" when "Jew" works just fine.

On 2/8/07, Cool Cat <wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com> wrote:
> Was that sarcasm? I am a bit confused. Based on that the usage of the word
> Jew can be used in a vulgar manner, something we clearly want to avoid.
>    - Cool Cat
>
> On 2/8/07, jayjg <jayjg99 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 2/8/07, Steve Bennett <stevagewp at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 2/5/07, Cool Cat <wikipedia.kawaii.neko at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_February_2#Category:Jews
> > > >
> > > > I proposed a rename as per wikipedias categorization scheme, we add
> > "people"
> > > > to any ethnicity. There appears to be a number of panic "oppose"
> > votes. What
> > > > do you think?
> > >
> > > For what it's worth, I do find the formulations "Jews", "American
> > > Jews" etc rather awkward and find they have unfortunate connotations.
> >
> > "It is widely recognized that the attributive use of the noun Jew, in
> > phrases such as 'Jew lawyer' or 'Jew ethics', is both vulgar and
> > highly offensive. In such contexts Jewish is the only acceptable
> > possibility. Some people, however, have become so wary of this
> > construction that they have extended the stigma to any use of Jew as a
> > noun, a practice that carries risks of its own. In a sentence such as
> > 'There are now several Jews on the council', which is unobjectionable,
> > the substitution of a circumlocution like Jewish people or persons of
> > Jewish background may in itself cause offense for seeming to imply
> > that Jew has a negative connotation when used as a noun."
> >
> > The American Heritage(r) Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth
> > Edition.  2000.
> >
> > "Jew" is not a dirty word.
> >
> > Jay.
> >
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