Sorry, but I don't see any problem with this. Apologies for sounding a bit
extreme Jonathan, but are you suggesting that "once an admin, always an
admin?", or perhaps "de-sysoping means the admin in question has been too
controversial, and is being forced to step down?" However, I do agree that
we actually should get on helping build the encyclopedia instead of arguing
about rights and such things.
Stwalkerster
On 28/12/2007, Jonathan (Wikipedia) <jonathan.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Nathan wrote:
I don't know, whats worrying? You seem to
think the drama seekers are
a problem - I don't know who the drama seekers are, but is it possible
some of them are the ones who are leaving? Perhaps the sudden increase
(as you see it) in desysoppings will help to counteract the drama that
you dislike.
On Dec 27, 2007 7:07 PM, Jonathan (Wikipedia) <jonathan.wiki(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> AGK wrote:
>
>> Similarly, nothing new. Wikipedia's expanding, so is the number of
>> desysoppings. We've got better things to worry about, surely. AGK
>>
>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AGK
>>
en.wikipedia.org
>>
>> On 27/12/2007, Rjd0060 - <rjd0060.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Well said. And guess what: Next year, there will probably be more
than
>>> there were this year, and so on.
Nothing alarming here, really.
>>>
>>> On Dec 27, 2007 3:55 PM, Risker <risker.wp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 12/27/07, Jonathan (Wikipedia) <jonathan.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Majorly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> How many of those were because of bad admins though? Sometimes,
an
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> admin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> needs a break from seeing extra buttons they no longer want to
be
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> dealing
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> with, so will request to be desysopped. I don't see that as
a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Bad admins of course are a problem, and so are compromised
accounts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Less of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> that next year of course, but admins can resign whenever they
wish
-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> isn't a problem at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but this is more than we've ever had. I know that Wikipedia
has
>>>>> some admins retire, but we
had more than last year. I'm not trying
to
>>>>> alarm everyone, but this is
scaring me just a bit. I've seen a few
>>>>> retirements because of a problem with another editor. THAT is what
I'm
>>>>> saying we need to get our act
together about.
>>>>>
>>>>> ~Jonathan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Of course there were more than ever before. There are more admins
than
>> ever
>> before. There are more articles than ever before. There were more
>>
>>
> edits
>
>
>> than ever before. One must have a sense of proportion here. What *
>> percentage* of admins was desysopped year over year, by reason for
>> desysopping? That would give us a reasonable comparison point, raw
>> numbers
>> are meaningless.
>>
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Yes, I understand that Wikipedia gets more admins with time. But this
year had a massive jump in desysops. THAT'S why I'm getting worried.
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Nathan, you have a good point. Most of the drama-making admins have
already retired, thus, it might help.
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