[WikiEN-l] WP:EPISODE

Todd Allen toddmallen at gmail.com
Sat Dec 22 08:25:11 UTC 2007


Matthew Brown wrote:
> On Dec 21, 2007 1:07 PM, David Gerard <dgerard at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> That sounds like an excellent argument for trashing the "notability"
>> guideline, which has always been deeply problematic, particularly for
>> its subjectivity.
>>     
>
> Wholly agreed.
>
> Additionally, most such articles exist as break-outs from an article
> that nobody is arguing should be deleted.  Breaking out detail that
> would make the primary article unwieldy is a long accepted Wikipedia
> practise.
>
>   
>> Remember that the Wikipedia jargon word "notability" originated as a
>> back-formation from "non-notable," which was Votes For Deletion jargon
>> for "I don't like it." And that's about all it still is.
>>     
>
> Notability is the attempt to provide solid rules for deletion because
> of the criticism that 'non-notable' is subjective.  However,
> consistent subjectivity is still subjective, no matter how consistent
> it is.
>
> Notability is also not well derived from core policy, IMO.
>
> -Matt
>
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>   
"If no reliable, third-party sources can be found for an article topic,
Wikipedia should not have an article on it."

Last I checked, verifiability is core policy, and that's from it. Sounds
like a reasonable derivation to me.

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