I think this thread needs to end if we continue to get so personal. Whatever
my feelings on the need for a discussion about this kind of discrimination
on Wikipedia, accusatory comments like "...is misogynist crap. But you're
not offended at that at all." are unacceptable. It may be that you were
shouted down, even if you had legit arguments, because you ran around
proclaiming everyone who disagreed with you to be a misogynist. Let's have a
civil conversation, or none at all.
On 8/30/07, K P <kpbotany(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/30/07, michael west <michawest(a)gmail.com> wrote:
How many editors actually check what gender
another editor is? Even user
pages can be vague unless the editor actually states they are male or
female. Personal names don't help Stacey, Kimberley, Chris etc and as
for
edits [[Knitting]] and [[Women in prison film]]
are not an indication.
Mysogeny doesn't work on Wikipedia for the simple reason that all the
female
editors I know are perhaps stronger willed or
ready to cut the BS before
it
happens. Or is it mysogenist to suggest that?
mike33
Actually it works quite well if you disagree with something misogynist
on Wikipedia--when you think comments like, "gotta keep the pimp hand
strong" are offensive for example. (Although nicely it turned out to
be a wimp hand, and ain't so strong anymore.)
So, you've never seen anything misogynist on Wikipedia? And if you
have, did you speak up? Again, I suggest that certain people are more
likely to notice it than others. And others, those comfortable being
a member of the club as it is, less likely.
I've seen plenty, and when I've spoken up, I've been thoroughly put in
my place, ganged up on by hords of male, and some female, editors
ready to make sure that the boys continue to have a safe place to
play.
Making a user box declaring yourself a pimp, and connecting it to the
article on pimp, in the ordinary sense of "seller of sexual access to
women's bodies for profit" sense, is misogynist crap. But you're not
offended at that at all.
KP
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