On 28/08/07, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86(a)comcast.net> wrote:
on 8/28/07 9:43 AM, Armed Blowfish at
diodontida.armata(a)googlemail.com
wrote:
On 28/08/07, Marc Riddell
<michaeldavid86(a)comcast.net> wrote:
on 8/28/07 9:10 AM, Puppy at
puppy(a)KillerChihuahua.com wrote:
Legitimate requests are not attacks, regardless
of how they are phrased.
And criticizing terminology is expanding the issue needlessly. Shall we
/not/ see how many sub-issues we can drag into this thread? Just a
thought, but stay on topic.
OK, "go away" may be a "legitimate request" (actually, it reads like
an
order); but what do you call "you trolling fuckwit"?
Marc Riddell
Like I said, Wikipaedia is also an attack site. David hardly started
that.
It's ingrained in the culture.
If this is so, and we expect to become - and to remain - a legitimate,
respected project - we've got a lot of work to do.
Let's see... if you ask for offencive material to be removed from ED, they
will make the situation worse. If you ask for offencive material to be
removed from Wikipaedia, they might very well do the same thing.
More courtesy blankings, deletions and oversights would help solve this
problem. Also, try avoiding public interrogation of OTRS members on
private matters.
I personally believe that the vast majority of
Community Members are above
that sort of behavior. That's where the hope comes from.
Marc
It really doesn't matter if it is intentional or not. Courtesy
blankings, deletions
and oversights are not sanctions against the users who made the comments.
However, there are certain societal values that encourage attacks. Placing
freedom of information and Google's right to cache above the feelings of
real people. Placing the public's right to know who people are above the
privacy and safety of people who seriously could get hurt. Placing the need
to punish those who do 'bad' things above actually resolving the situation,
even if they were only responding to bad things which were done to them.
The belief that if someone is attacked, they must have done something to
deserve it.
An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, will make the whole world blind and
toothless.
>>> Daniel R. Tobias wrote:
>>>> On 27 Aug 2007 at 19:27:25 +0100, "David Gerard"
<dgerard(a)gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Go away, you trolling fuckwit.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's no "No Personal Attacks" policy on this list,
apparently.