On 13/08/07, Kamryn Matika <kamrynmatika(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/13/07, Armed Blowfish
<diodontida.armata(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
To clarify on that, consider good Tor users and exit node operators
who have never contributed to Wikipaedia. They cannot be said to have
violated policy, since they have obeyed it by not editing, either when
most of Tor was softblocked, or by evading Tor blocks while most of
Tor has been hardblocked. (Well, unless you want to say that exit
node operators allowing exits to Wikipaedia are 'violating policy' by
doing so... why some people think Tor exit policies are in
Wikipaedia's jurisdiction, I don't know....)
It would be nice if those Tor users and exit node operators could
edit, after being authenticated as trusted. On the Tor IRC channel,
Wikipaedia is complained about more than any other site, by polite
individuals. However, I myself have no interest in getting
unbanned/unblocked/whatever, and said RfA is a source of distress for
me, so it would be nice if you could leave that out of the debate.
How are we supposed to authenticate people as 'trusted' if they have never
edited?
Blocks do not apply to user talk pages. So, suppose the Tor person
gets an account somehow - either Tor nodes allowing exiting to
Wikipaedia are hardblocked with account created enabled, or he emails
the unblock mailing list and asks someone to create an account for
him. After that, it's just like {{2ndchance}} - the Tor person can
copy some neglected article to his or her talk page, improve it, and
use {{helpme}}, until some sufficient level of trust is attained.
Another thought might be to let people who have contributed to other
open source projects, like Tor, count those contributions elsewhere
towards their level of trustworthiness on Wikipaedia, but note that
the standards on other projects are different.
Also see:
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Armed…
(focuses on technical aspects)
http://smg.media.mit.edu/people/Judith/Identity/IdentityDeception.html
(focuses on social aspects)
Armed Blowfish