[WikiEN-l] Hardblocking usernames

JodyB jodybwiki at bellsouth.net
Sat Aug 11 19:36:10 UTC 2007


Guys, he's obviously yanking your chain -- he's been around enough to 
know. Just stop feeding him.

JodyB

Armed Blowfish wrote:
> On 11/08/07, Tracy Poff <tracy.poff at gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> On 8/11/07, Armed Blowfish <diodontida.armata at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> On 11/08/07, Daniel R. Tobias <dan at tobias.name> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> If somebody is such a strict vegetarian that they won't eat anything
>>>> prepared in a kitchen where meat is prepared, or somebody is keeping
>>>> kosher so strictly that they won't eat anything prepared in a
>>>> nonkosher kitchen, then such a situation means that there are many
>>>> homes and restaurants they are unable to eat in.  This is not the
>>>> same as saying they're "banned" from those places, however.  (Shades
>>>> of Seinfeld's Soup Nazi.)
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps it's even a matter of necessity rather than choice, as when
>>>> they're severely allergic to peanuts and must avoid any food that
>>>> even has a chance of having touched something with peanut residue;
>>>> this may impose severe limits on what they can eat, and where their
>>>> food may come from, but it still wouldn't make sense for them to
>>>> claim they were "banned" from places that use peanuts.
>>>>         
>> A better example would be editing via the protocol set by RFC 1149: IP
>> over Carrier Pigeon. We don't accept carrier-pigeon-editing from any
>> editor, but that's no reason to say that Armed Blowfish is banned from
>> carrier-pigeon-editing--everyone is, after all.
>>
>>     
>>> I still feel banned.  There is more than one option available to
>>> unblock individual Tor users.
>>>
>>> I am, however, uncertain if I should feel complimented that people are
>>> trying to convince me otherwise, or hurt that people said I was lying
>>> about this.  : /
>>>
>>> Does it really matter, though?  It could easily be a year before I'm
>>> sane again, so I may as well be banned for a year at least.
>>>       
>> In some situations, "I still feel banned" would be the important
>> issue. However, you were supporting a change to the way we notify
>> blocked users based on an argument of 'I am banned, and this would be
>> bad for me,' when you are not, in fact, banned; since the community
>> uses the word ban to mean a certain thing, and since that particular
>> definition was important to this discussion, it does matter that you
>> use the same terms as everyone else.
>>
>> Tracy Poff
>>     
>
> But those things were bad for me?
>
> And isn't a block upgraded to a ban when the community denies an appeal?
>
> Really, I'm over wanting to edit... but it would have been good if
> more people had been kind about the whole thing.
>
> Armed Blowfish
>
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