[WikiEN-l] Hardblocking usernames

Tracy Poff tracy.poff at gmail.com
Sat Aug 11 18:41:16 UTC 2007


On 8/11/07, Armed Blowfish <diodontida.armata at googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 11/08/07, Daniel R. Tobias <dan at tobias.name> wrote:
> > If somebody is such a strict vegetarian that they won't eat anything
> > prepared in a kitchen where meat is prepared, or somebody is keeping
> > kosher so strictly that they won't eat anything prepared in a
> > nonkosher kitchen, then such a situation means that there are many
> > homes and restaurants they are unable to eat in.  This is not the
> > same as saying they're "banned" from those places, however.  (Shades
> > of Seinfeld's Soup Nazi.)
> >
> > Perhaps it's even a matter of necessity rather than choice, as when
> > they're severely allergic to peanuts and must avoid any food that
> > even has a chance of having touched something with peanut residue;
> > this may impose severe limits on what they can eat, and where their
> > food may come from, but it still wouldn't make sense for them to
> > claim they were "banned" from places that use peanuts.

A better example would be editing via the protocol set by RFC 1149: IP
over Carrier Pigeon. We don't accept carrier-pigeon-editing from any
editor, but that's no reason to say that Armed Blowfish is banned from
carrier-pigeon-editing--everyone is, after all.

> I still feel banned.  There is more than one option available to
> unblock individual Tor users.
>
> I am, however, uncertain if I should feel complimented that people are
> trying to convince me otherwise, or hurt that people said I was lying
> about this.  : /
>
> Does it really matter, though?  It could easily be a year before I'm
> sane again, so I may as well be banned for a year at least.

In some situations, "I still feel banned" would be the important
issue. However, you were supporting a change to the way we notify
blocked users based on an argument of 'I am banned, and this would be
bad for me,' when you are not, in fact, banned; since the community
uses the word ban to mean a certain thing, and since that particular
definition was important to this discussion, it does matter that you
use the same terms as everyone else.

Tracy Poff



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