To those who say I have trivialised rape / violence - I'll not quote,
it's been more than one person by now - I am afraid you are mistaken.
Let's see... I am a victim of long term sexual abuse... I have friends
who have been raped... I have friends who have been stabbed with
knives and thrown down staircases. And I am quite sure that, were
those friends to read this, they would not be offended. Some of them
would probably be proud of me.
I'm doing this to help victims and potential victims of abuse. I
cannot honestly expect people to provide helpful responses to a sort
of pain they do not understand - hence, I've been trying to explain
it.
Also see this article by Deborah Orr entitled 'Deborah Orr: How can
juries understand rape unless the full horror is explained to them?':
http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_m_z/deborah_orr/article2201075.…
SlimVirgin may not, to our knowledge, be the victim of violent
stalking... yet! But one thing leads to another - once they can find
you, it is quite possible that they will, and then the violence can
start. We can reduce the likelihood of that happening by providing
social support, making her less vulnerable. But even if it doesn't
happen, there is still such a thing as 'emotional abuse'.
Consider this USENET posting as quoted by Judith Donath of MIT Media
Labs in the article 'Identity and Deception in the Virtual Community'
which was published in 'Communities in Cyberspace',
'As far as letting you know my name or giving you my fingerprints or
whatever else you demand, no I don't think so. There is more going on
in this net than just misc.fitness.weights. I'm involved in the net
war in alt.religion.scientology. Those cultists have so far raided 4
of their net critics on bogus copyright violation charges, and in one
case they placed a large amount of LSD on the toothbrush of a person
who was raided, a couple of days before he was to undergo a video
deposition. In my city they have been convicted of several crimes,
including infiltrating the municipal, provincial, and federal police
forces. No, I will not give out my name just to satify your
curiousity. Deal with it.'
Armed Blowfish
On 02/08/07, Stephen Park <stephenpark15(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Comparing rape or violence to having your real
life identity on
wikipedia outed is a loathsome analogy that trivializes rape and
violence, manipulates emotions and tries to exploit what victims of
rape and violence have gone through in order to make a point.
While you may be the beneficiary of this insensitive and boorish
attempt to score a debating point I hope that you have enough
perspective to rise above the fray and condemn ArmedBlowFish's writing
for what it is.
SV, quite frankly, you were sloppy and made mistakes. You used a
pseudonym that could be linked to you in real life. You edited
articles that you were connected to in real life in an obvious way.
You left a trail. Yes, it's too bad you were outed but it's not rape
and it's not violence. People shouldn't be saying that it is and you
shouldn't be encouraging them.
SP
On 8/2/07, Slim Virgin <slimvirgin(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/2/07, Matthew Brown <morven(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 8/1/07, Oskar Sigvardsson <oskarsigvardsson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > You seem to be suggesting that I can't take issue with describing
> > someone as a troll because that same person is making rape
> > comparisons. Others had already called that out; I saw no need to
add
to it.
As I read Armedblowfish's post (from memory), he compared this
situation to rape, violence, OR harassment, and his point was one
about people being attacked for being attacked. It would make more
sense to take that point, rather than focusing on a provocative word.
(This isn't directed at Matthew, by the way, but at the other editors
who complained, though I've lost track of who they were.)
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That's funny, because I know people who have been raped and they would be
incredibly pissed off to see their ordeal compared to the "horror" of having
your real name released on the internet. Fuck off and quit trolling. It's a
bit obvious that you're doing this because SV rained on your RFA and you're
looking for some kind of approval or validation. Please come back when you
have something relevant and not ridiculously offensive to say.
I can't believe a supposedly 'respected' Wikipedian like Jayjg is supporting
and encouraging this idiocy.