On 4/23/07, K P <kpbotany(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/22/07, MacGyverMagic/Mgm <macgyvermagic(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If you provide specifics, editor name and example edits that
illustrate
> your
> point best, you might get someone else to file the RFC/RFAr for you.
You
already
know what's going on so if you provide the diffs it saves
someone
who doesn't know what's going on a lot of
time.
Mgm
Thanks everyone for the various ideas. I will try to find people in the
geology project to look at stuff, and I have challenged the editor to
correct the citations well enough so that I can look at them, and I have
sent off for the referenced EIRs that are not listed anywhere on the web
or
county cites or corporate cites they are attached to. Some of the
geology
information I already know is simply incorrect as
it is high school
California geology, and the editor appears to have incorporated the
material
into a paper he wrote and is now referencing his own paper, strangely.
Problematically California geology is extremely complex and there are
few
Wikipedia editors working on it, however, I will
also try to shift the
burden to this editor to provide his references, not use his unpublished
work as references, and get people from various projects to look at it.
What? Since when was unpublished work admissible as a reference in the
first
place? If it's not published, it's not accessible to other editors and
readers to crosscheck, and thus not an appropriate reference.
Johnleemk
It's not admissible.
But I am assuming good faith, and maybe these are published, just the titles
are wrong, so I can't find them referenced anywhere but Wikipedia, and the
counties don't have good records and haven't listed them (my county is
dreadful), and they're published in obscure journals that aren't indexed on
line, or they're just not available on-line because they're too old. In the
last case with California Coast Range geology, this also makes them too old
to be used as references.
So, I've asked for precise information that will allow me to locate the
resources. If they're unpublished, I won't be able to locate them, and the
editor will not be able to provide the necessary information, then we'll
move to removing them from all the articles. Of course this editor has
thousands of edits....
KP