[WikiEN-l] Don't remove a WP:OFFICE tag put there by Danny

Carl Fûrstenberg azatoth at gmail.com
Sat Mar 11 22:06:09 UTC 2006


Time for another fund raize? the foundation needs a stable of loyars. :)

On 3/11/06, Steve Bennett <stevage at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 3/11/06, Delirium <delirium at hackish.org> wrote:
> > What we should do, of course, is what we always do.  Someone should tell
> > us *what* the complaints are, and we should fix the article.  Blanking
> > and deleting the article should only be the done in the most extreme
> > cases where there is absolutely nothing useful or salvageable about it.
>
> That's not a reasonable request. The Jack Thomspon email is pretty
> instructive. Seems like the story goes like this:
>
> 1. Wikipedia community writes an article on famous person X
> 2. X's lawyers write to the Wikimedia foundation, citing vague
> "errors" and "defamatory material", and threatening to sue the arse
> off it if the article is not deleted instantly.
> 3. Wikimedia foundation is supposed to cite the specific errors in the
> article, so they can be edited out, and thus play chicken with X's
> lawyers?
>
> The point is: you delete the page, the problem goes away. Any other
> solution, and the problem - X's lawyers - is still there. You can
> argue that your page is NPOV and not defamatory. But you won't be
> doing it in court - the Wikimedia Foundation will be. So, from that
> point of view, it's totally their call what to do about it.
>
> > I feel the current policy is striking a strong bias against criticism of
> > political figures in proportion to how much money and time they have to
> > get staff to complain to us.
>
> Sure, but that's life. There is a lot of stuff to write about in
> Wikipedia. If some articles about living people with lawyers are kept
> a bit shorter and less comprehensive, well it's not a great loss, in
> perspective...
>
> Steve
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