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On 19/07/06, Rptng03509345 <barbecue43564 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> This vital information on admin abuse his been removed by abusive administrators at wikipedia from requests for assistance, from talk pages, and even from an AFD from [[Encyclopedia Dramatica]]  where the info is crucial to the decision...
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> (see removal from AFD here [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica_%283rd_nomination%29&diff=prev&oldid=64624774])
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> <b><u>Below are links to edits by multiple users.  Because these users are administrators, they will likely use the article delete power to hide them.  All edits only going back the last 30 days or so.</u></b>
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> MONGO blanks sections of talk pages that were not vandalism or personal attacks.  [[WP:VAND]] considers this action vandalism.:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=64253369] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Todd_Lanuzzi&diff=prev&oldid=64249564]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=63164639] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bishonen&diff=prev&oldid=61794896]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Todd_Lanuzzi&diff=prev&oldid=64249564]
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> Makes threats of premeditated speedy deletion of Encyclopedia Dramatica article in edit summaries:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64414695]
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> Modifies another user's talk page comment that was not a personal attack or vandalism:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MONGO&diff=prev&oldid=64170242]
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> Protected an article about twelve hours after two edits that he disagreed with were reverted:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64241376]
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> Edited an article after protecting it removing many cited sources (see his words on why [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tony_Sidaway&diff=prev&oldid=64453125]) :
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64241784]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64364917]
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> Admits he was fine with the older screenshot on Encyclopedia Dramatica:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64332883]
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> User Kizzle uploads an image that is an attack image and unfree to MONGO's user talk page.  Even fair use are not allowed there.  MONGO, Tony Sidaway, and all the other admins leave it and do nothing, despite MONGO's previous quick deletion of images and quickness to protect articles:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMONGO&diff=64403776&oldid=64367621]
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> User NoSeptember protects the image after someone tried to replace it with an image that wasn't illegal and restores the illegal image:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image%3ADramatica_what.jpg&diff=64447683&oldid=64401879]
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> MONGO further endorses the illegal image:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kizzle&diff=prev&oldid=64408191]
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> MONGO removes any attempts of users he bans from communicating with him:[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Todd_Lanuzzi&diff=prev&oldid=64249564]
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> MONGO calls encyclopedia dramatica retarded as well as promising to remove protection and put the external link back (which he later refused to do at [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AEncyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=64457667&oldid=64456778]):
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AEncyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=64370597&oldid=64369119]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64421961]
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> MONGO refuses to put link back or unprotect the article Encyclopedia Dramatica:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64440681]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64457667]
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> MONGO engaging in personal attacks when giving block reasons:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=MONGO&page=User%3AHmmm1111111]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=MONGO&page=User%3AJeremyJX+]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=MONGO&page=User%3AKirkharry]
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> TonySidaway engaging in personal attacks when giving block reasons:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Tony+Sidaway&page=User%3APrometheuspan]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Tony+Sidaway&page=User%3AScented+Guano]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Tony+Sidaway&page=User%3APlumped]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=Tony+Sidaway&page=User%3AMyrtone86]
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> http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/User:MONGO1 has made edits directly coinciding with MONGO on wikipedia first learning that he had an article on that site.  The edits included vandalism and personal attacks:
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> [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=MONGO&diff=prev&oldid=1996965047]
> [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Samsara&diff=prev&oldid=1996965048] [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Samsara&diff=prev&oldid=1996965049]
> [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=Talk:Girlvinyl&diff=prev&oldid=1996965050]
> [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=User_talk:MONGO1&diff=prev&oldid=1996965052]
> [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=MONGO&diff=prev&oldid=1996970554]
> [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=MONGO&diff=prev&oldid=1996970555]
> [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php?title=MONGO&diff=prev&oldid=1996970558]
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> Encyclopedia Dramatica Checkuser found the account came from 24.252.28.188 = ip24-252-28-188.om.om.cox.net
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> Proof that it is MONGO:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/MONGO&diff=prev&oldid=60621470
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> Evidence of MONGO hiding edits from his IP on wikipedia:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=64482074]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=User+talk%3AWsiegmund]
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> Directly after the MONGO1 account was banned a new account arose, using the name "Ed Poor", potentialy impersonation.  [http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Special:Contributions/Ed_Poor contributions] that did more vandalism and personal attacks.  This one used AOL IPs 205.188.116.196, 205.188.117.70, 205.188.117.74.
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> Ed Poor states it was not him. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AEd_Poor&diff=64466312&oldid=64387571]
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> Other IPs with associated vandalism afterward:
> *203.109.225.187 resolves to 203-109-225-187.bliink.ihug.co.nz
> *128.2.141.33 resolves to ERR.CYLAB.CMU.EDU
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> MONGO and Tony Sidaway removed the results -- In general psychology (from wikipedia's articles), if someone was innocent they would want it to stand as evidence whereas a guilty person would want to hide it: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&curid=1975039&diff=64414695&oldid=64413700 (example)] all mention of it and banned the account for eternity that said it.  [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64414908 MONGO protects the talk page where it was first mentioned.] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&diff=prev&oldid=64419489 Tony Sidaway also hides the IP results] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=64419133] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Arbitration_enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=64419540]
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> Another admin wishes to investigate this and MONGO reverts that admin twice: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Arbitration_enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=64419540] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=64420588]
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> MONGO hides the cox.net IP and claims it was only AOL.  Is it because the cox.net IP is his?:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jaranda&diff=prev&oldid=64423313]
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> MONGO deletes the user and user talk page of someone mentioning this and MONGO makes personal attacks in the summary of why he deleted them:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=MONGO&page=User%3ARptng03509345]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=MONGO&page=User%3ARptng03509345]
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> MONGO tells someone to post to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, however he has reverted complaints about him there (see above):
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64427147]
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> MONGO says, "well the sight is supportive of calling African-Americans (and blcaks in general) by the "N" word...so if there was an article that used that word on the mainpage, that would not be worth linking to either.":
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64431937]
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> When asked if MONGO would spend the "spend the same amount of time and energy on that article" (being GNAA article), MONGO said:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64437013]
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> MONGO deletes an image instead of reverted a changed version of it:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=MONGO&page=Image%3AEncyclopaedia+Dramatica+front+page.PNG]
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> MONGO vandalizes the article again by removing the external link to the site:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64509881]
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> MONGO removes links that quote his wiki edits in talk pages:
> *[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&curid=1975039&diff=64522808&oldid=64521807]
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> Other actions by MONGO:
> * "''Ah, I am not aware of them or their activities. I have worked very hard in the past to protect many wikipedians from off-wiki harassment by those that have posted at wikipediareview and hivemind. I can't be at all places at once, and I was alerted by someone about this stuff.--MONGO 08:34, 18 July 2006 (UTC)''"  Guess what? He banned the person who helped him out. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AEncyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=64433577&oldid=64433176]
> *"''What are you accusing me of? I see that you have had an account with us for a year and have less than 150 edits total and you want me to take your commentary seriously? I was alerted to this situation...I don't have the time to be everywhere, buddy. How about you go write one long well referenced article and stop your trolling.--MONGO 09:15, 18 July 2006 (UTC) ''" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AEncyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=64437013&oldid=64436043]
> * After being asked why he targets the Encyclopedia Dramatica article and not GNAA, MONGO blanks the talk page, moving discussions from minutes ago into an archive so the entire talk page is blank. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64437662]
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> *[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tony_Sidaway&diff=prev&oldid=64453125 Mongo announces plans to destroy the article Encyclopedia Dramatica so it passes AFD.]
> *[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64457667 Then states that he continues this plan]
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> Tony Sidaway examples of personal attacks:
> *[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64367096]
> *[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64329354]
> * ''"I have blocked this editor becausae he's stupid"'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=60770791]
> * ''"he's an obvious nutter ...  Let's just tell him to fuck off."'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=60773841]
> * ''"He's a troll. Our only appropriate words to him are "fuck off."'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=60775460]
> * ''"I sincerely suggest that "fuck off" is almost too kind for this pernicious and stupid troll."'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&diff=prev&oldid=60776863]
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> Tony Sidaway also reverted someone's own messages in their talk page and protected it, claiming "they attempted to use their talk page." [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ABlu_Aardvark&diff=64326390&oldid=63585773]
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> Note troll is used as a personal attack. See [[WP:NPA]].  MONGO also uses the word retarded both for a personal attack on a user (first one in list below as well as for a website)
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> MONGO gives personal attacks in edits:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64413700]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MONGO&diff=prev&oldid=64182308] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kirkharry&diff=prev&oldid=64182504]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bouquet&diff=prev&oldid=64179187]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Kirkharry&diff=prev&oldid=64182504]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=64363033]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=64363082]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=64363732]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=64540034]
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> MONGO gives personal attacks in edit summaries:
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jaranda&diff=prev&oldid=64423313]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64414908]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Dramatica&diff=prev&oldid=64414695]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:MONGO&diff=prev&oldid=64244420]
> [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:American_Airlines_Flight_77&diff=prev&oldid=57519187]
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