[WikiEN-l] Re: #wikipedia-en-admins

[geni]

On 1/24/06, Alphax (Wikipedia email) <alphasigmax at gmail.com> wrote:
> John Lee wrote:
> > Sam Fentress (Asbestos) wrote:
> >
> >> On 1/23/06, Peter Mackay <peter.mackay at bigpond.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> I don't think anyone is disputing the desirability of having an admin
> >>> discussion list where non-admins can't post. Non-admins shouldn't be
> >>> able
> >>> to
> >>> participate in such a list, and the reasons given above go a long way
> >>> towards justifying this.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I think some people are disputing precisely this.  I hate the idea of an
> >> admin-only room, list or anything else. It's written in a dozen places
> >> all
> >> over the project: Admins are janitors; admins just get to use a few extra
> >> buttons; admins are not above regular editors; adminship should be no big
> >> deal.
> >>
> >> There is nothing that we could discuss that we would need to bad
> >> others from
> >> listening to and contributing to. Policy? Nowhere is it written or even
> >> suggested that admins only make policy. Blocking decisions? This is
> >> always
> >> open on the wiki and admin decisions are always transparent and open to
> >> accountability. How to use admin buttons? Use a talk page, write an
> >> email,
> >> or go to #wikipedia. People we don't like? Edit wars we'd like assistance
> >> on? Notable polls we want our friends voting in? If people need to
> >> discuss
> >> any of these things, there are plenty of other venues.
> >>
> >> This isn't a trivial matter. Outside of email lists, this is the first
> >> time
> >> (as far as I'm aware) that we have any forum designed specifically to
> >> hide
> >> from the rest of the community, to discuss things in secret, to set one
> >> group over and above another.
> >>
> >> I'm not against an admin-oriented channel: just against a hidden,
> >> exclusive,
> >> admin-only channel.
> >>
> >>
> > I've said it before, I'll say it again: Delegate this sort of thing --
> > i.e. the Foundation pushing things down to the guys in the trenches --
> > to the 'crats. They don't have enough work as it is. ;-)
> >
>
> We need more people on OTRS and helpdesk-l,

Does OTRS get many copyvio compliants? If so how do I join?

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geni