[WikiEN-l] Re: #wikipedia-en-admins

[John Lee]

Sam Fentress (Asbestos) wrote:

>On 1/23/06, Peter Mackay <peter.mackay at bigpond.com> wrote:
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>>I don't think anyone is disputing the desirability of having an admin
>>discussion list where non-admins can't post. Non-admins shouldn't be able
>>to
>>participate in such a list, and the reasons given above go a long way
>>towards justifying this.
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>I think some people are disputing precisely this.  I hate the idea of an
>admin-only room, list or anything else. It's written in a dozen places all
>over the project: Admins are janitors; admins just get to use a few extra
>buttons; admins are not above regular editors; adminship should be no big
>deal.
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>There is nothing that we could discuss that we would need to bad others from
>listening to and contributing to. Policy? Nowhere is it written or even
>suggested that admins only make policy. Blocking decisions? This is always
>open on the wiki and admin decisions are always transparent and open to
>accountability. How to use admin buttons? Use a talk page, write an email,
>or go to #wikipedia. People we don't like? Edit wars we'd like assistance
>on? Notable polls we want our friends voting in? If people need to discuss
>any of these things, there are plenty of other venues.
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>This isn't a trivial matter. Outside of email lists, this is the first time
>(as far as I'm aware) that we have any forum designed specifically to hide
>from the rest of the community, to discuss things in secret, to set one
>group over and above another.
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>I'm not against an admin-oriented channel: just against a hidden, exclusive,
>admin-only channel.
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>Sam
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>Asbestos
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Asbestos
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I've said it before, I'll say it again: Delegate this sort of thing -- 
i.e. the Foundation pushing things down to the guys in the trenches -- 
to the 'crats. They don't have enough work as it is. ;-)

John Lee
([[User:Johnleemk]])