[WikiEN-l] The Wikipedia Ombudsman

[Fred Bauder]

Actually I think you kind of have this backwards. Usually an appeal  
is from a decision made by a specialized group to a larger group  
which represents broader community opinion. You have an appeal from a  
pretty large group to one person. How about appeals being to the  
administrators as a group? If there really is a consensus perhaps  
some way could be found to express it.

Fred

On Jan 8, 2006, at 10:23 PM, Wikipedia Romania (Ronline) wrote:

>>
>> I like this idea, but this sounds more to me like a PR spindoctor  
>> for the
>> ArbCom than anything else.  I don't know if we need more officials  
>> right
>> now, we're already pretty sticky in the beauracracy.
>>
>>
>
> The Ombudsman should actually be quite "ArbCom sceptic" if you know  
> what I
> mean - he or she should in no way succumb to the ArbCom interests,  
> since the
> whole point of an Ombudsman is to act as a structure of appeal and  
> review
> for the ArbCom and to a lesser extent admins.
>
> As to bureaucracy - I agree that the Ombudsman's role is already  
> carried out
> to an extent by Jimbo. However, I presume Jimbo is already  
> overloaded with
> work, and that he simply doesn't have the time to investigate and  
> report on
> cases in depth. It is pretty unreasonable to expect him to be an  
> ombudsman
> and last-step-of-appeals person, and do all of the other work he  
> does in
> terms of the Wikimedia Foundation, and promotion, etc.
>
> I guess many people would like to take on the function of the  
> ombudsman, at
> least those of us who are committed to justice on Wikipedia in the  
> light of
> recent admin and ArbCom action.
>
> Food for thought, though. Just how much crap does Jimbo get, just  
> for being
>
>> who he is? My guess is that it's a lot.
>>
>>
>
> Yes, I suppose it's a lot. That's why I don't think he should deal  
> with
> cases that sometimes may seem quite trivial in the greater scheme of
> Wikipedia, but may be very important to particular users or the  
> community.
>
> Ronline
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